Onkyo TX-NR5007 AV Receiver Preview

Jose - disable

|2009-10-26 08:36:18

hi: I own the txrn 900 wich my daughter buy for me with lot of sacrifice 5 years
ago. now Im looking at this new txrn 50007 and in love with it. it has all the
features you need on a machine like this one I just wish I can afford one .I
wish they would lower the price. 24000 hundred that alot on money .I guess only
the people with money can affort one. thats all I have to say . thanks.

Michael - Price

|2009-11-05 01:15:15

Jose,

The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price of this unit might be $2700,
but I paid only $1800 for my A/V Receiver from an Authorized Onkyo Dealer. I
also recommend you buy the two-year Warranty Extension from ShopOnkyo.com for
only $85.

Jose - disable

|2009-11-05 19:04:51

Michael,

thamks for the advice, Im realy looking forward to purchase the 5007
.right now Icannot afforted just going to way and see if the price go down .I
just love the look and features on that baby. like I said before I have the 900
and never had any problem works beautiful and the sound especialy with the
movies is outstanding and my is only 110 watts .anyway thanks again for the
comment. just if you get a chance let us know how that beast sounds.

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Michael - Sound Quality

|2009-12-09 07:35:45

Jose,

You asked how the TX-NR5007 sounds, so I thought I would give you an
update.

I am very impressed with the sound of my TX-NR5007. I have never
heard an A/V Receiver with this type of sound.

The Total Harmonic Distortion
of only 0.05% in a 145 watt output from NINE speakers is absolutely amazing. The
quality produced from this receiver when you play an HD-DVD in DTS Master Audio
is absolutely unmatched. It's a shame that so few Blu-ray movies are released in
DTS sound, but there are a few.

I have played Jurassic Park 1, 2, and 3 on
DVD in DTS and Dolby Digital, and they all sound amazing! The LFE channels will
completely rock your room! The sound Equalizer on this A/V Receiver can be
turned Off, or it can be used with the Audyssey settings, or you can adjust
everything Manually. The thing I really like to do, since I am a movie guy who
enjoys being shaken by explosions and dinosaurs, is use the Manual mode because
it features an amazing level of customization that I have never seen in an A/V
Receiver before. Let me explain.

On my previous Sony ES A/V Receiver, you
simply had a choice of raising the overall Subwoofer volume, or just the LFE
volume. The Onkyo A/V Receiver takes it a step further by allowing you to
manually raise the volume for certain frequencies, such as 25hz, 40hz, and 63hz.
I raise the 25hz setting by 4 decibels so the deep explosions and BIG impacts
are extra loud without having an effect on voices. I also raise the 40hz setting
by 2 decibels. This really is a cool setting that I'm sure everyone will
enjoy.

The one thing that puzzles me a little bit is that the Audyssey
settings cannot be modified or "equalized." I think the reason for this
is because they figure that Audyssey has analyzed the acoustics in your room, so
they don't want you messing them up. However, the thing that kind of bugs me is
the fact that I actually think that Audyssey did a better job of making
adjustments than I did, but you cannot use the Equalizer settings for the
subwoofer when you are using the Audyssey equalizer settings. The thing that is
frustrating is that when you select "Audyssey" you only see
"Audyssey," and you do not see the actual frequencies used. It would be
nice if the actual settings for Audyssey appeared on the screen; that way I
could copy the Audyssey settings over to Manual settings, and still make my
Subwoofer modification that raises the 25hz and 40hz frequency settings. Onkyo,
if you are reading this, please release a Firmware Update that adds this
feature; it would be easy to do and would make me happy.

To give you an idea
of just how ahead of the pack this A/V Receiver is, I was on the phone with a
technical engineer from Dr. Hsu (the creator of advanced subwoofers) and the Hsu
representative made...

Michael

|2009-12-09 07:37:40

Hey,

My comment above was cut off!

I wrote a LOT of extra information.
Good thing I used Microsoft Word to write it. I can copy and paste in sections.

Michael

|2009-12-09 07:38:47

To give you an idea of just how ahead of the pack this A/V Receiver is, I was on
the phone with a technical engineer from Dr. Hsu (the creator of advanced
subwoofers) and the Hsu representative made a comment about how difficult it is
to place two or more subwoofers because the A/V Receiver only knows where one of
them is. When I pointed out that the Onkyo TX-NR5007 uses Audyssey to find the
exact distance of two subwoofers, the representative was very impressed; I think
he was going to buy one after that. He was explaining to me that if you can tell
the A/V Receiver where two subwoofers are located, you actually can have perfect
placement for four subwoofers, as long as they are placed symmetrically (e.g.,
in all four corners of the room). This makes me wonder if this is the reason why
the Hsu website specifically lists Onkyo as the company that Hsu subwoofers work
best with.

The only time I have ever experienced any type of bad sound with
this A/V Receiver can be blamed on the TV shows from Comcast. Let me
explain.

Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS Neo 6 have actually produced better sound
than Dolby Digital on quite a few shows broadcast from Comcast. This is
disappointing and can be blamed entirely on Comcast; it would effect any A/V
Receiver in the same way, but let me explain what I'm referring to.

When
Comcast broadcasts a show in 2.0 or in 2.1, the A/V Receiver selects Dolby Pro
Logic II or DTS Neo 6 (or others), depending on which you prefer. This results
in awesome 5.1 sound that has nice sound from the subwoofer, perfect sound from
the rear speakers, and perfect sound from the center and front channels; it is
almost as if the movie or TV show was actually designed in true 5.1 sound. The
A/V Receiver handles this perfectly.

When Comcast broadcasts 5.1 sound
correctly, it sounds absolutely amazing on the TX-NR5007. For example, last
night I watched Jurassic Park on HBO, and it was even better than when I saw
that movie in the theater. You could FEEEL the dinosaurs STOMPING and you could
FEEL the dinosaurs flying in the air all around you.

Sadly, Comcast finds
ways to goof up the sound on many of the shows they broadcast. Here are some
examples:

Michael

|2009-12-09 07:39:24

* Larry King: This is a show where about 100% of the sound is supposed to be
come out of the center channel, because that is the channel were voices like
that are supposed to come from. In a normal environment this is broadcast as a
2.0 format and the voices are matrixed and end up in the center channel. If
Comcast were to broadcast this in 2.0, the A/V Receiver would put it in Pro
Logic II and it would sound perfect. But, there were several nights when CNN or
Comcast decided to broadcast in 5.1, which removed the possibility of Pro Logic
II or DTS Neo 6 from being used. But, rather than broadcasting the voices from
the Center channel, the voices came ONLY through the Front Left channel!!! This
literally meant Comcast was broadcasting a 5.1 sound format where FOUR of the
channels were completely empty, and the one that did produce sound was not the
correct speaker! No A/V Receiver can correct a problem like this, so it would be
nice if Comcast or CNN would do something about it.

* Fletch: I watched the
movie Fletch as an On-Demand movie from Comcast. For 48 minutes, the movie
broadcast in 5.0 sound fine. However, 48 minutes into the movie, the sound stops
broadcasting voices from the Center channel and starts broadcasting voices from
the Front Left and Front Right channels. It stayed like that until the end of
the movie. This one is totally Comcast's fault.

* World Series: The World
Series had awesome sound; I could even hear planes in the air coming from the
rear speakers; it was SO REAL! However, it would be nice if the people in charge
of the baseball games would put the microphones in the correct spot based on
what the people at home will be seeing on the TV sets. For example, it sounded
awesome when the umpire would yell STRIKE from my left speaker. The problem is,
the umpire was looking to the right and shouting to the right, which means it
should have been coming from the Front Right speaker. If this had been a
"one-time" mistake, it would have been okay, but the idiots at the
Worlds Series made this mistake EVERY game! ... And yes, my A/V Receiver has the
speakers hooked up correctly.

Michael

|2009-12-09 07:39:57

The Onkyo A/V Receiver has all sorts of cool features associated with sound. It
has a Late Night sound mode that can be varied in three different ways. The
frequencies of the sound are changed so much that you can hear the sound almost
perfectly, while people in another close room can't hear it at all. My family
was very impressed with this feature, because I usually stay up at night
watching TV. I've literally had family say "I couldn't hear you at all last
night," even though I was thinking to myself "I bet someone is going to
tell me to turn it down any second."

I've also listened to Super Audio CD
discs and DVD-Audio discs. The sound from these discs is absolutely amazing!
Just a tip: when you try to listen to one of these discs, you have to click the
Audio button and select "Multichannel" as the sound format.

Also,
this A/V Receiver recognizes that different DVD-Audio players and SACD players
have a different "sensitivity" to the subwoofer. You can have it preset
to modify the sensitive by 5db, 10db, or 15db, because the instruction manual
points out those are the levels that certain disc players are offset by those
common levels. My player had that exact problem; I was starting to get
disappointed, because the subwoofer was too powerful on certain SACD discs. In
order to get the sound right, I needed to reduce my subwoofer to -14db, which
was way off target. But, when I read the instruction manual, I made that
adjustment and I selected 15db as the "Reference Point" sensitivity.
After that, everything was fine and I was so pleased that Onkyo had already
taken this situation into consideration. After that, I could put my subwoofer
back at -2db, where it was before.

This A/V Receiver has a sound mode where
you can even shut off the video display on the A/V Receiver itself; that way
every last drop of possible electricity is removed from the A/V Receiver in
order to make sure any type of electrical interference is completely removed, if
that is an issue where you live. I never hear any form of "hiss" in the
background with this Onkyo A/V Receiver the way I did with my Sony A/V Receiver.

Michael

|2009-12-09 07:40:34

The THX modes in this A/V Receiver are very cool, too. I like using the THX
Cinema mode when watching a movie, particularly a THX movie such as Terminator
2. The THX standard is 80hz as a Crossover Frequency for the speakers, and also
80hz as an LFE cutoff point for the subwoofer. This is a safe setting, but I
have done a lot of tests and I found that even in Terminator 2 (a THX movie), if
you leave the LFE at 120hz, you can "feel" more sound during explosions,
particularly the one where Los Angeles is destroyed by a nuclear bomb. I guess
my attitude is "If the producers of the movie put that piece of sound in the
LFE channel, they meant for you to hear it from the subwoofer." As a result,
I leave my LFE cutoff at 120hz.

I also put my Crossover Frequency at 50hz,
because I have some nice bookshelf speakers that go down to 45hz. I've noticed
over the years that if you leave your Crossover Frequency at 80hz, it won't be
long before you end up hearing voices or certain pieces of low-frequency music
from the subwoofer, even from THX movies. The solution to that problem is to
lower the volume of the subwoofer, but that also lowers the impact of dinosaurs
stomping and explosions rattling your windows. So, I just leave the frequency at
50hz. I think I'm not the only person to come to this conclusion, because I've
noticed some A/V Receivers have a mode where the frequency is 80hz, but can be
lowered to exactly 50hz at the push of one button.

Michael

|2009-12-09 07:41:08

I've owned A/V Receivers in the past with dozens of different "modes"
and sound settings for music. I have to say that I almost never use those
different settings. Onkyo has never been known for having a lot of
"different" modes for music. Instead, I've noticed that Onkyo focuses on
a smaller amount of music modes; that way each one ends up being high-quality. I
really enjoy using one of those modes for the Rock/Pop type of music. Listening
to Michael Jackson's Thriller CD from that mode was absolutely amazing! And the
song Black or White was incredible on the Onkyo TX-NR5007.

There is also an
awesome feature where you can plug in your USB card and listen to thousands of
your favorite songs on MP3, WMA, and many other formats. The sound is
decompressed by the Onkyo A/V Receiver, and it sounds just as good as if it was
being played from a CD. The menu is easy to navigate. I have to say the menu and
instruction manual are the best I've ever seen in an A/V Receiver.

All I can
say is that this A/V Receiver has excellent sound. You called it a
"beast" and after watching the Jurassic Park movies, I think you might
be right!

Jose - the beast

|2009-12-10 08:35:33

thanks again.
sounds realy amazing your comment. I cannot way to own one of
them.for know I have to way ,things are very tough .I have the txnr 900 and this
baby too rock my house I have 2 front towers 20006 series from infinity center
cc2 infinity left and right suround rs1 ,2 yamaha ns 6390 140 watts suround back
, towers 200 watts, center 100, surounds 100 watts and a infinity sub ps 12 300
watts .realy sounds amazing too. but I would like to upgrade to the 5007 more
features ,less distortion ,better audio and video cables I love electronics and
the sound in music and movies well Michael thanks alot .so if you have time let
me know what you think about my system .and what is your system especs . I think
I want to upgrade the speaker too. forgive my writing and not so good at it and
my inglish is not so good . Jose

Jose - question

|2010-02-25 22:23:13

what you guys think about maranz receivers
I thinking swiching to maranz from
onkyo can anyone help me decide wich one onkyo or maranz . thanks

Michael - STAY AWAY from Onkyo!

|2010-02-26 10:04:30

Jose,

This is the same "Michael" who previously wrote to you about my
TX-NR5007.

I have changed my opinion of th eT-NR5007 for a variety of
reasons. There are many problems I have experienced with my TX-NR5007. In fact,
I actually thought my A/V Receiver was defective because I experienced so many
problems. I ended up exchanging my A/V Receiver from Onkyo for another unit of
the TX-NR5007 model. This second TX-NR5007 model had many of the same defects,
which proves that the problem actually exists in the engineering design of the
TX-NR5007 rather than any one particular unit being defective.

Let me give
you a description of some of the problems I experienced with my first
TX-NR5007:

* Something happened where the Display and Menu screens would come
up pixelated and fill the entire screen with background noise that would flicker
in and out. This problem affected the first TX-NR5007 I owned, but not the
second one.

* Screen-flicker problems would occur randomly. Sometimes this
would happen up to three times in one day, while other times it would go up to
11 days without occurring. Whenever I would tell Onkyo about this problem, they
would blame this on HDMI cables, but this was not the case. This same problem
happened with Component cables, too. This problem did not happen with the second
TX-NR5007 unit I owned.

* Audio dropout problems. There were plenty of times
when sound would completely dropout of my TX-NR5007. I am not just referring to
times when the sound format changed during commercials, or during the opening
sequences of a DVD. Dozens of times the sound would randomly drop out while
watching movies on DVD, Blu-ray, or playing videogames.

For example, in the
middle of the movie Terminator 2, the sound dropped out four different times
while watching the movie on Blu-ray. My player was not the problem, because this
happened while watching Starship Troopers on a different DVD player, too.

Onkyo once again tried to blame the problem on HDMI cables. I did some
experimenting and I found that the problem with audio dropout occurs with HDMI,
Optical, and Coaxial cables. This problem with audio dropout DID occur on both
of my TX-NR5007 units, which causes me to believe the problem is with the design
of the unit. This belief seems to be confirmed by the fact that dozens of other
owners of the TX-NR5007 are having this problem.

* "Ghosting" is what
I called skipped frames of animation. This problem occured VERY BAD during
certain parts of movies I recorded on my Comcast DVR, but they were only visible
when the TX-NR5007 was connected to the HDTV. This problem effected both of the
TX-NR5007 units I owned, but much worse on the first. Just watch National
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation on Comcast on ANY channel when it is broadcast on<...

Michael

|2010-02-26 10:07:43

Jose,

This has once again chopped my message to you in half. I apologize for
this. I also apologize that the text on this website is divided in random spots.
Here is where the message left off.

* "Ghosting" is what I called
skipped frames of animation. This problem occured VERY BAD during certain parts
of movies I recorded on my Comcast DVR, but they were only visible when the
TX-NR5007 was connected to the HDTV. This problem effected both of the TX-NR5007
units I owned, but much worse on the first. Just watch National Lampoon's
Christmas Vacation on Comcast on ANY channel when it is broadcast on an HDTV
channel and you will see what I mean.

* Finally, I will admit that it is
INCREDIBLY ANNOYING the way that the TX-NR5007 and Onkyo's other 2009 A/V
Receivers have a "clicking" noise that occurs whenever the sound format
changes. Onkyo claims this is not a defect, which is correct. However, I would
NOT have purchased this unit if I would have known about the "clicking"
problem and the way that it eventually becomes INCREDIBLY ANNOYING!!!

I have
returned BOTH of the TX-NR5007 models, because I am convinced that the TX-NR5007
has engineering and construction problems with its overall design. Onkyo claims
that the "clicking" only occurs when there is a loss of sound, but that
is NOT true, as proven by multiple sources.

HDMI 1.4 is going to be included
in the 2010 lineup of A/V Receivers from Onkyo and Denon. If Onkyo's 2010 lineup
does NOT have the "clicking" problem where you lose sound every time a
commercial uses a different sound format, then I will probably buy an Onkyo A/V
Receiver later this year.

But, if Onkyo A/V Receivers still use this annoying
"clicking" technology, then I am not going to waste my money on that
type of outdated technology. I highly recommend you stay away from Onkyo A/V
Receivers unless you can confirm they do not have the "clicking"
problem. Trust me, the "clicking" problem gets annoying oer time.

jose - question

|2010-03-02 11:49:13

Hello. michael
Im thinking upgrading my system so now I dont know where to
start I was looking forward for onkyo but now Im changing my mind . now what do
you think about maranz receivers for instant the sr 6004 or 5004 Im doing some
reserch and they telling me is a good receiver with b&w speakers or any other
receiver you may think is good brand. thanks Jose.

Michael - HDMI 1.4 - Wait for it

|2010-03-03 16:57:41

Jose,

I can tell you that in 2010 virtually all of the manufacturer's of A/V
Receivers will be using HDMI 1.4 technology. HDMI 1.4 is a very big leap in
technology over HDMI 1.3. There was virtually no difference between HDMI 1.2 and
HDMI 1.3, but there are quite a few features that have been added for HDMI 1.4.
Regardless of what brand you decide to buy, I think you should wait for an A/V
Receiver with HDMI 1.4 before you make your upgrade.

I know that Onkyo has
publicly announced their spring lineup of A/V Receivers will include HDMI 1.4. I
will watch those A/V Receivers closely. If the new Onkyo A/V Receivers suffer
from the same "clicking" problems that the TX-NR 5007 and other Onkyo
2009 models suffer from, I will NOT be interested in Onkyo.

Marantz is a
brand I have been hearing a lot of stuff about lately. It seems like the people
who buy Maranz A/V Receivers are satisfied with their purchase. I personally did
not purchase Marantz because of two reasons. First, the THD is an area that
tends to be relatively disappointing in Marantz A/V Receivers. I say
"relatively" in reference to the second issue, which is the price. A THD
of 0.08% at the high price Marantz wants is not good. For that much money you
should try to get an A/V Receiver with a THD of 0.05% And the price Marantz
wants for their SR 6004 model is something Onkyo actually beats on paper in
terms of tech-specs with some of their THX Select models. But, like I said, I
recommed staying away from the Onkyo 2009 models of A/V Receiver because of the
"clicking" problems.

Steve - Regarding Jose's question about Marantz

|2010-03-05 14:36:15

Jose,

I own an older (2002) Marantz SR9200. At the time, I listened to many
receivers and did the research. What made my decision was the incredible sound
quality from the Marantz. It was unmatched by other brands I listed to.
Unfortunately, I've had a number of issues with the receiver over the years
(left channel output issue, video output issue, optical connection flakes out
occasionally now), which is why I am now researching the Onkyo TX-NR5007. (I'm
also researching because my 2002 model doesn't have any HDMI, ethernet, etc.) I
was actually at Ultimate Electronics today and they were trying to sell me the
flagship Yamaha. The sound of that receiver couldn't compare to my 8 year old
Marantz and I told the sales person that. I'm curious how the Onkyo sounds
compared to my Marantz. I can't find a local Onkyo dealer.

Nonetheless, based
on the very helpful reviews by Michael and similar reviews on other sites, I
think I'll just stick with the problem receiver I have instead of buying a new
set of problems.

Brian - Onkyo "chirping sound" between audio format chan

|2010-03-07 09:16:54

Michael - Unfortunately, it looks like you didn't wait long enough. Onkyo just
released a firmware upgrade that gets rid of the chirping issues. Everyone on
AVS Forums who've run the update are stating the clicking noises are gone (thank
goodness!)

Michael - Chirping is NOT solved by Firmware

|2010-03-08 08:10:03

Brian,

I am aware of the firmware update that Onkyo recently released on
February 24, 2010. This firmware update does NOT "get rid of" the
"chirping issues" that most people refer to as "clicking"
noises.

Let me put it another way. The firmware update does NOT
"Eliminate" the problems with the clicking noises.

The Onkyo website
specifically says the second purpose of the firmware update is to "Reduce
speaker relay switching sound."

In other words, the firmware update does
NOT "Eliminate" the annoying sounds of the speaker relay switching. The
firmware update only "Reduces" the speaker relay swtiching sound.

The
second T-NR5007 A/V Receiver I owned had this firmware update built into it. The
"clicks" did sound noticably more quiet at times, but there were plenty
of times when the "clicks" were just as loud as always.

Also, I sit
about 15 feet across the room from where the A/V Receiver is resting and I can
still easily hear those annoying "click" noises. The reason for this is
because the "click" noises always occur when the sound format changes
and there is a silence on the screen. This is another problem that has NOT been
solved by the firmware update. Every time a sound format changes you end up
looking at lips moving but you don't hear any sound for a second or two. This is
AWFUL and Onkyo needs to make sure that future A/V Receivers are NOT designed
like this. The TX-NR5007 and other 2009 A/V Receivers were definitely a step
BACKWARD with technology.

Michael

|2010-03-29 17:23:04

listen onkyo just realease a new entry level lines of receivers but still I
looking foeward something more advanced than those . thanks Jose

Michael - Onkyo's spring lineup

|2010-03-29 18:11:44

Onkyo's new spring lineup of A/V Receivers are classified as "entry
level" A/V Receivers.

For the money, these "entry level" A/V
Receivers aren't bad. It is nice that Onkyo is selling a THX Select A/V Receiver
for such a low price. However, there are two disappointments for me when I
looked at the specificiations.

First, even the best Onkyo A/V Receiver being
released this spring lacks power. Nothing offers more than 100 watts of power.
This isn't enough for me, personally.

Second, the Total Harmonic Distortion
of these Onkyo A/V Receivers is no better than 0.08%. I was really hoping Onkyo
would have been able to release an A/V Receiver with 0.05% THD.

Now, I
suppose I will have to wait until this fall to see what Onkyo's fall lineup of
high-end A/V Receivers are like. I just hope Onkyo keeps the prices down,
because Onkyo has a LOT to prove to me after the VERY DISAPPOINTING lineup of
2009 high-end A/V Receivers and all their "clicks."

I am actually
looking forward to see what Pioneer is offering this April. The 1020 model will
be a very impressive "entry level" A/V Receiver, and the 1120 model is
going to be released this June and it is THX Select 2. I'm pretty sure the
Pioneer model will have 0.05% THD, and if it has the same 120 watts as last
years model I will be very happy and purchase the unit without waiting to see
what Onkyo has to offer.

michael

|2010-03-30 10:28:03

I took a look at some new pioneers receivers entry level like the vsx 1120k but
I dont know if they are any good.it does have 1.4 hdmi 120 watts but the thh is
rated at 0.08% the price is prety good
what do You think. Jose

michael - still serching

|2010-04-28 09:40:34

michael hello again . just thinking about the onkyo receivers .I was wondering
has you have check the 3007 to me is no so much diferences they have almost
the same spects except for the wattage and the price has drop I still like this
receivers Im looking around for others .I can not find anything like this onkyos
like the expects low distortion so manny features especialy video scaling and
looks .any news about the problems with the 3005 model .thanks Jose let me know
if anything new comes up

Preston - TX-NR5007 issues in the TX-NR5008??

|2010-10-10 19:05:45

Anyone know if the problems in the 5007 were eliminated in the TX-NR5008? I'm
thinking about getting a 5008 but not if it still has the same problems as the
5007.

And considering the 5008 is several hundred dollars more than the 5007,
I wonder what the differences are in it...

Michael

|2012-09-29 19:14:52

Michael this is Jose we share some comments before about onkyos are U still
around did U ever got a onkyo receiver I still got my 900 but starting to have
audio problems is working preaty good but sometimes the sound is low so I have
to put up the volume so what do U think about the new onkyos 3009,3010,5009 and
the 5010 for some reason I love this onkyos so let me know wat U thing Thanks
Jose

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