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Written by Tom Volotta   
Thursday, 30 April 2009
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That's Nice, But... 

Yes, the KDL-46Z4100 has the premium video capabilities of 10-bit processing combined with a 10-bit LCD panel, x.v. Color and Deep Color - all able to be transported over the HDMI 1.3 path.  The issue is that except for the new Advanced Video Coding High Definition (AVCHD), a version of H.264/MPEG-4 video compression, camcorders and some new Sony Playstation 3 video games being developed, there is NO readily available consumer content being produced with 10-bit, x.v.Color or Deep Color specifications.

Even Blu-ray discs are mastered in a highly compressed 8-bit color space, and there certainly are no high definition television programs available OTA, cable or satellite in a format better than 8-bit.  Don’t hold your breath in waiting for special 10-bit, x.v.Color, Deep Color Blu-ray discs or Internet streaming/downloads.  The increased storage and bitrate throughput required won’t be tackled anytime soon by the manufacturers, studios or carriers.

So what exactly is the point of having all this advanced video capability when the likelihood of those technologies ever encountering content that merits their existence is slim to none?  Does 10-bit, x.v. Color and Deep Color make 8-bit, sRGB, True Color look better?  Questionable.  Off hand, probably not, but I haven’t seen side-by-side tests.  Having the extra horsepower may be useful in assuring that the content that does enter the system looks as good as possible by at least maintaining the incoming quality coming without possibly being degraded.  But it’s not magic, and won’t transform highly banded content into smooth.

It does provide some measure of future-proofing as compression/decompression (codecs) formats improve, allowing advanced standards such as x.v. Color or Deep Color to actually be stored on media, transmitted and sent to your screen via HDMI 1.3.  There may also be some advances in online content delivery that would benefit.  However, 10-bit (30-bits-per-pixel), Deep and x.v.Color capability (aka 30, 36 and 48-bits-per-pixel) in your TV doesn’t guarantee you won’t see a banding effect, as those artifacts might be there already.  The original source material being feed into the system itself may be flawed to begin with, or it could be poorly encoded, or artifacts introduced during transmission before reaching your equipment.

Although the original material for feature films and other HD content is typically captured, edited and processed with professional equipment as uncompressed 10-bit, 12-bit or 16-bit in 2K, 4K and even up to 8K workflows (required for the IMAX scenes in The Dark Knight), high definition content currently delivered to consumers through broadcast, cable, satellite and Blu-ray movies is still encoded as highly compressed 8-bit video with AVC, VC-1 and MPEG-2 codecs.  This is required for smaller file sizes to store the content and much lower throughput bit rates consumer equipment is designed to accommodate.

OK - so, if my WALL-E or The Dark Knight Blu-ray discs are only 8-bit, with no realistic expectation there will be 10-bit BD or other consumer content anytime soon, why should I care if the TV has 10-bit video processing with a 10-bit panel, or whether the Blu-ray players can output x.v.Color and Deep Color?  Numerous Blu-ray players currently offer the ability to “upscale” 8-bit content to these advanced color profile, similarly to how they take 480i DVD-Video and convert it to 1080p.  10-bit players, interface pipelines and displays won’t magically clean up 8-bit which is already compromised, either being present in the master material, introduced during the workflow from capture into an editing system, encoding for distribution and perhaps re-encoded along a transmission path.  Consider it a “Do no harm” type of insurance policy.  The expanded palette offered by x.v. Color and increased precision of Deep Color in newer Blu-ray players and displays is only possible with 10-bit (or better) processing, and if the final piece of the chain, the display, only has 8-bit video processing and an 8-bit panel, the superior quality of x.v. and Deep Color will not be delivered.

Closing Thoughts

I’ve always liked Sony televisions and have owned several models, plus have used many of their professional standard and high definition CRTs over the years.  After dropping its plasma line a couple years ago to first focus on LCDs, Sony has made impressive strides.  Much of the overly sharp, edgy quality LCDs had early on has been mitigated through advances in the core technology, but also through higher frame rates and special motion processing.  Truly deep blacks still elude the Z4100 series, but it is a model position somewhere in the high-middle of Sony’s product offerings, so one shouldn’t expect the very best.

The 46Z4100 is beyond versatile in terms of media format input capabilities.  It’s getting close to being the central hub for audio, video and computer integration, and the addition of BRAVIA Link Modules connected through the DMeX port only enhances that potential.  The sound system is only average.

The on screen user interface works pretty well, but could use a touch-up to enable swifter navigation to the specific settings menus you want.  Luckily, once the primary viewing settings have been made, there are enough direct buttons or short cuts on the remote control that permit quick access to a variety of adjustments you’d make when watching.  People demand them and there are a lot of options on this TV.  With that, there is a limit as to how simple the selection of those choices and operations can be made.

All in all, the KDL-46Z4100 is a terrific LCD TV.  Considering it is last year’s model, but can be had at closeout pricing of half its original $2,800 MSRP (which is also what the new 46” Z5100 retails for), while containing near all the same features, makes it a real bargain.  A curious note is that the new 2009 Z5100 series does NOT include x.v.Color.  That feature is now exclusively with the XBR LCDs.  So, in addition to getting a great deal, you’ll have a set with features only available from Sony’s upper tier.
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John  - LCD's still don't do sports   |2009-05-05 13:22:12
I was considering a Sony LCD until I watched sports on it eg F1, football and
hockey. They still don't have the motion issues resolved. The sets are good
for most movies but did you notice the store demos have a lot of scenic views
and not a lot of motion?
zwoosley  - LCD is great for sports!   |2009-05-06 10:10:32
My Sony 46Z4100 has absolutley no motion issues while watching fast moving
b-ball and hockey! Colors are true to life and images are best I have ever
seen...blows away the Samsung touch of red series. I recommend the Z highly. Got
mine in mid-Dec 2008 at HH Gregg for only $1499 with a free Sony Blu-ray player!
Tom Volotta  - Motion   |2009-05-06 10:50:04
John, I hope you're not expecting to clearly see a hockey puck flying at 100 mph
without some motion issues !

Lots of variables in watching sports on TV.
Whether the original source is 1080i or 720p, OTA or cable/satellite
compression, exact motion processing settings in the LCD and the speed of
objects traveling through the frame. There is always going to be some type of
blur or other motion artifact (hopefully not too distracting) in any display.
Even in the real world, your eye can only resolve a moving object of X size at Y
distance at Z speed with so much clarity. I doubt you'd want the clarity, but
lack of motion blur that traditional Stop-Motion animation (e.g., Ray
Harryhausen's "King Kong" and more recently, Seth Green's "Robot
Chicken") offers.

Of course there are problems with LCDs (and plasmas) in
delivering perfect motion. That's why all these various frame rate processing
technologies are employed. In general, I thought the 46Z4100 did a pretty good
job with sports.
Tom Volotta  - Motion (continued)   |2009-05-06 10:51:33
Of course there are problems with LCDs (and plasmas) in delivering perfect
motion. That's why all these various frame rate processing technologies are
employed. In general, I thought the 46Z4100 did a pretty good job with sports.
Craig  - good review, but hopefully not too late   |2009-05-29 06:49:45
Through research, I was able to pick up on the points mentioned in this article
and got one about a month ago for $1388. Looking around now, its pretty slim
pickins. If you can find one, though, I'd highly recommend one!
chilehead  - picture settings?   |2009-05-29 07:12:50
It would be nice if you would share your picture settings after calibration.
Its nice to be able to compare with others settings.
Andy   |2009-06-18 16:21:22
Great review! Most detailed review I have seen on a z4100, much better than that
of cnet.

One question, "The W4100-series has 120Hz Motionflow and a 10-bit
LCD panel, but not 10-bit video processing", where did you get that
information? AVS forum members would be dying to know... As no where in the
manual, Sony's site, or anywhere else has ever stated what panel the w4100 is
using.
Tom Volotta  - 10-bit, or not to 10-bit...   |2009-06-21 15:09:18
Andy,

Thanks for the kind words about the review.

I stand corrected about the
KDL-46W4100 having a 10-bit LCD panel. The mention of the W4100 in the 46Z4100
review was only for feature-comparison purposes, and if the W4100 does not have
10-bit technology, IMO that only makes the Z4100 an even better deal for the
price difference in leaping over the W from the V to the Z.

Thought I had
confirmed the W4100 10-bit panel through information direct from Sony obtained
in the Fall of 2008, but can't find a record of that in my notes. I very well
could have mistakenly combined the previous generation KDL-46W3000 spec, which
did have both 10-bit processing and 10-bit panel, with what I thought I had read
on Sony's site about the W4100/4150 series along with anecdotal comments on
various forums, which then led me to believe the KDL-46W4100 indeed had a 10-bit
panel, but not 10-bit processing. Checking back now with Sony, I don't see any
documentation from them indicating the W4100 series had any 10-bit technology.


That said, it's not unheard of for manufacturers to publish or disseminate
(typically through online or telephone support) incorrect information about
their products. A current example from Sony are the specifications for the new
KDL-46W5100 on their website.


http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servle
t/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&lan
gId=-1&productId=8198552921665746326

In the "Specifications" tab, under
"Display" it says, "Panel Bit: 8-bit." Under "Video
Features" is says, "Deep Color: Yes." Since Deep Color requires a
minimum of 10-bit precision per channel (30-bit) it would seem the W5100's 8-bit
panel is not capable of delivering Deep Color to your eyes. 8-bit (aka 24-bit)
is referred to as "Truecolor" not "Deep Color." With many
Blu-ray players now up-processing BD titles (even though encoded at 8-bit) at 36
or 48-bit, Deep Color displays are apparently becoming more important.

Three
final nit-picking points to note:

1. Nowhere in Sony's Operating Instructions
(manual) for the KDL-46Z4100 is "10-bit" or "Deep Color" ever
mentioned.

2. It is interesting that Sony has never stated what panel the
W4100 uses, 8-bit or 10-bit. I presume not doing so means 8-bit, but why the
absence of clearly saying which it is?

3. Presentation of specifications and
features for products often overlap in ways that are confusing, and along with
the intermixing of brand or trade names for various technologies can make
rooting out the exact performance capabilities a bit of a puzzle.

Thank you for
taking the time to read the rather ponderous review in such detail as to enable
picking out this particular flaw, and to make me aware of the error.

I'll do
bett...
Tom Volotta   |2009-06-21 15:10:38
Three final nit-picking points to note:

1. Nowhere in Sony's Operating
Instructions (manual) for the KDL-46Z4100 is "10-bit" or "Deep
Color" ever mentioned.

2. It is interesting that Sony has never stated
what panel the W4100 uses, 8-bit or 10-bit. I presume not doing so means 8-bit,
but why the absence of clearly saying which it is?

3. Presentation of
specifications and features for products often overlap in ways that are
confusing, and along with the intermixing of brand or trade names for various
technologies can make rooting out the exact performance capabilities a bit of a
puzzle.

Thank you for taking the time to read the rather ponderous review in
such detail as to enable picking out this particular flaw, and to make me aware
of the error.

I'll do better next time.

...TV
Tom Volotta   |2009-06-21 15:16:22
Character problem. empty comment
craig  - 10-bit   |2009-07-16 18:40:27
If you look up a refurbished 46z4100 on the sony website, the specs clearly
state 10-bit panel and processing.
Current link to one as of this
post:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/
servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=101
51&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665411952
Eric  - Audio Only HD channel   |2009-09-05 17:57:29
I receive my HD channels direclty via my Charter Coax cable. I do not have a
cable box. On two of my HD ready TV's I can receive ABC, CBS, Fox, and NBC
without issues. However, on this model of TV (46z4100) there is not picture for
the NBC channel. When I turn to that channel I hear the sound, but a small popup
windows states "Audio Only". I have tried readding my digital channels,
but no luck. Any ideas?
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