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Old 06-12-2009   #7
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Nothing, absolutely nothing, will beat a Yamaha for sound quality. It may not be the boomiest but it is the clearest and most real sound that can be found. I have tried tons on receivers and they all have their individual qualities, but for overall quality , it is Yamaha. Their sound chips have the greatest technology and realism that can be found. But I'm not talking about toys. I'm talking $1600 or more. Even the $800 one isn't bad, but once you make the commitment to one of the higher ones, you will never be dissatisfied. I hope before I die, I can afford the $5600 one. I am a sound fanatic. Many other manufacturers are ungodly overpriced.
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If you are dreaming to have the best system, I suggest you look for Preamp processor (Onkyo PRSC886) with all the latest features and go for one time investment of power amplifiers for each channel, you may get many powerful 7/ ch power amps. So one thing in future you will have to change is processor not the complete AVR.
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If you are dreaming to have the best system, I suggest you look for Preamp processor (Onkyo PRSC886) with all the latest features and go for one time investment of power amplifiers for each channel, you may get many powerful 7/ ch power amps. So one thing in future you will have to change is processor not the complete AVR.
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I have done a lot of checking of Onkyo and nothing I have found would ever get me to buy Onkyo. I'm 62 years old and maybe my ears are getting bad, I don't really think so, but nothing impresses me about Onkyo. Sorry, I am not trying to pick on you at all. We all have different ears and like different sounds. I definitely do not need more power from each channel. Yamaha has that completely under control.
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I'm trying to figure out what the Denon xx10 series has that the xx09CI series does (or higher end xx08CI for that matter). All I can seem to identify is height-based surround, and maybe a few other features migrating lower down the food chain in terms of receiver cost. I can't even figure out the hierarchy of the models, though Denon's website implies a hierarchy (but the tables aren't filled out completely, as far as I can tell, or I'm not sure they are, so an older, higher model might lack key features found in a newer, lower-end model.

Personally, although I use Yamaha pro music gear, I've never heard a Yamaha system that I liked- they always sounded tinny, overly strong in the bass and sucked out in the midrange. That may be more a reflection of the users's configuration and speakers than anything else, but I can't be sure.

I'm curious about the Pioneer models that use class D amps because they run cool and are much more energy efficient than the more common designs (class D mainly being used in subwoofers to my knowledge).

The Marantz 6003 seems like a good model, though the cost is high unless you buy from a gry market shop. The thing that has always bugged me about the Marantz A/V receivers is the video side- few connections, no upconversion/scaling until very recently, and this sort of thing. The sound is excellent. The 6003 does have the analog to HDMI capabilities one would want. But, from a reputable dealer, it is expensive- even the 5003 is expensive. The 6003 is a bit more than the Onkyo 706. The Marantz's don't network. So, they put money into good sound more than anything, which is great, but I can't find a stand-alone music server that I can afford (except for my network storage drive, ReadyNAS+, now owned by Netgear) and would love to be able to stream 40 GB of hi res music, if for no other reason that my CD collection is now completely disorganized (the good news is this means my kids listen to them).

The Onkyo's typically receive great reviews, except for the small % that are terrible. The bad reviews tend to address reliability and make it difficult for me to purchase via the web, in case mine burns up... the 706 is one of the models that runs pretty hot, I believe. But, this could be unfair: nobody has 100% reliable products.

Then there are the Pioneers. The models seem to come out fast and sometimes go away fast (as in become unavailable). There are Elite and non-Elite models. I'm skeptical but not completely incredulous of the good reviews. I am even more skeptical of Sony. They can make good equipment in the ES series, but it isn't a sure thing, especially with their amps and receivers IMHO as opposed to SACD players, and it is very hard to audition things these days- my favorite shops are all gone and the ones that are left don't cater to my lower-end A/V tastes or pocketbook (I have a separate audio system that is pseudo-high end).
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I feel like we need a Wikipedia for all these receivers. The magazines that list all the components available in a given year are often blank in the specs because the companies don't supply them. Then, there are the same codecs implemented in different ways, or so Denon's website implies, since they are listed twice. Even then, not all the boxes are checked in the comparison page on Denon's own website, so the chart doesn't seem to match the text descriptions of the individual receivers. Why does this have to be so confusing (and it causes people to, for example, buy stuff and then report later that it doesn't pass SACD signals properly). The online sites can't keep up with the huge outpouring of new models (no disrespect intended- all of the models often come out at similar times) and the print mags have similar issues. Well, on the other hand, if this is our biggest problem, we are doing OK.
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