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Old 03-03-2008   #31
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Here is a side by side comparison review, Samsung LNT-5281F vs. Pioneer Elite PRO-110FD Plasma at Sound and Vision Magazine:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...-round-ii.html
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Here is a side by side comparison review, Samsung LNT-5281F vs. Pioneer Elite PRO-110FD Plasma at Sound and Vision Magazine:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...-round-ii.html
Yeah about that Review:

It's poorly done. They screwed up calibrating the Samsung. Rob Sabin will likely be writing a followup in a future issue about how they "made an honest mistake."

Their numbers don't match other tested numbers.
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example: for a movie like 2001: A Space Odyssey, a flaw such as "minor blooming visible in dark areas" = blooming everywhere in most of the movie.
I put in 2001 a week ago and never saw blooming.

Also the unit isn't at 120HZ.
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I put in 2001 a week ago and never saw blooming.

Also the unit isn't at 120HZ.
This guy just doesn't get it! I mean he misses the primary objective of this discussion which is: Which TV is best for sports and in fact we should rename the discussion and since we are talking broadcast sports forget about the 1080P all together....and that is primarily why I choose the Pioneer Elite Kuro 1150 HD....Because you don't need 120Hz (LCD) for viewing sports. Any TV broadcast that you will watch will be at the lower HD resolution of 1080i or 720P. There are no sportcasts at the higher res. So why bother spending the extra money on the "Sammy"? As the HDTV's all upconvert to their native resolution...why would you want to introduce the possibility of pixelization in to the viewing mix by unnessarily upconverting a lower resolution picture? I am sure that even now 90% or more of the BR (Blue Ray) movies are not filmed in the higher 1080P resolution example: One of the bigest hits last year was Transformers....Personally I would even go further and say: Don't spend more that $1K on a real good plasma and save your money. Money that you might want to spend on an OLED TV in a few years when there will be more BR movies available in 1080P. By then OLED will kill Plasma and LCD! Oh and guess what Lotus....I bet that Pioneer 1150 has a superior picture over the Sammy at 30% + savings.....for viewing HD satellite broadcast sports....period.
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Wow! Feeling a bit vicious, eh? Does CR employ you? I have never heard someone defend CR with so much vigor. You even threaten a possible defamation suit. CR must be a tender point with you.

BTW, sorry your virgin eyes had to see an incorrect usage of "through." It's not my first typing mistake, and probably not my last.

I think that after reading your nasty, emotionally driven rants, the rest of the readers here will be THROUGH with you.
Hey I didn't threaten a defamation suit...I just said that, "You don't know who is in here reading this".

And emotion has everything to do with this....what are you cold like an ice cube? When you believe in something emotion is at the heart of what matters. When you get behind the wheel of a high performance car...the feelings, the emotions you feel (if that's what turns you on) are what make you enjoy the moment. It's the same for Lotus...I may not agree with him..any I'm sorry if I did get out of hand a bit...having some fun...(at his expense) but let's face it...he is impressed with that Sammy...it is emotional with him otherwise why would he bother defending it, eh? And you know what...maybe for him the feeling he gets seeing the PQ on that TV...that's cool for him...and that's OK!

And let me get back to CR for a moment...you want to tell me that when buying a product, consumer experience, MTBF and quality are not equally important as PQ....The one thing that I admire about the Samsung as a manufacturer is that their TV's are really well made. So all things being equal...maybe you would buy the Sammy over the Pioneer just for that reason...especially if you lived in Canada....like I do, where Pioneer's service sucks! So there...I just contradicted myself too! LOL! But as I know that the person who originally asked the question lives in the USA...so well...

Ok Lotus I will back off and apologize...I know I went too far...I was having too much fun...So in the end it's really up to two things emotion and what's best for you...knowing that there are options and knowing what those options are...that's what is important and then making an informed decision.
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Default Re: Which 1080P for sports?

For my money its plasma on fast action sports after side by side comparisons of plasma vs the LED and 120 LCD's.

They are pictures are off just enough to make the experince unpleasant.

For example: watch a hockey game pay attention to the action along the boards. You can't get a clear view of the action or the break outs through center ice. the players jersey's and number are generally illegible..

For get F1 or Indy racing.

LCD's are pretty much good for movies and bright rooms but not the viewing that I want a big screen for in my work in process home theater.

By the way, the thread was getting a little to personal, I"m glad everyone backed off, after all this isn't life and death just one persons preference over another...

What I do like is that I(we) get a lot of input from experts and enthusiasts like myself. And that can be informative as well as fun...

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