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Old 03-19-2008   #7
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Most rear projection sets (and LCD's for that matter) generally perform poorly when people are seated off-center. The Sony SXRD rear projections are very good, particularly if you are seated directly in front. Good plasma's are like CRT's--they look great even from way off center. Most rear displays quickly fade when you move 20 degrees or more off center.

Soory to say, in HDTV's you mostly get what you pay for. They aren't like amplifiers, where most companies have similar technologies and even inexpensive powerful amps perform basically just as well as super-expensive ones.

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Thanks for the price leads, Greg (though I think 6th Avenue went up a little on the 60" as of yesterday). Now, if I were to get a 60" Pioneer or the 58" Panasonic, what Kind of life expectancy could I expect to get with these newer units--figuring 4-5hrs a day viewing? Do plasmas have problems with burnt pixels, etc.? Thanks

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"Now, if I were to get a 60" Pioneer or the 58" Panasonic, what Kind of life expectancy could I expect to get with these newer units--figuring 4-5hrs a day viewing? Do plasmas have problems with burnt pixels, etc.? Thanks"

You will want a new HDTV before either plasma set gives out. They have a minimum life of 60,000 hours, so if you watched 6 hours a day x 365 days that would = 2,190 hours. As you can see, you will want something new way before the plasma gives out. And there is no reason to buy an extra warranty on plasmas. If there is a problem it will show itself in the first day or month. They don't have internal moving parts like DLP's, which have a much higher failure rate. As Pioneer and Panny are the two best and most reliable brands of plasma it is unlikely you will have a problem with either.

Like an LCD monitor, it can be possible to have one or two pixels that are out. In the unlikely event that takes place, when you are sitting at watching distance you will never see it. My Pioneer doesn't have any pixels that are out, at least as far as I can tell.

The Panny is a good set, just doesn't quite have the incredibly deep blacks andsubtle shadows that the Pioneer can produce. But it remains an excellent set and if you want to save money there is no 1080p set that can beat it at its size and price. If you want top drawer, yiou just have to suck it up and pay more:-) But I am sure you will be more than satisfied with the Panny.

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Try Googling Sixth Avenue Promotion codes and click through to 6th Avenue. On the for sale page you will see the cheaper price. You will probably have to call them to get the $4,198 price with free delivery.

Otherwise I would try the authorized internet seller monitoroutlet.com and ask them if they can beat or meet the price. I got mine through them and got an excellent price.

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Greg...thanks for all the info and advice. It's ironic that I'm looking at plasmas todays as I just got a coupon in the mail from a local Tweeter affiliate. They are advertising the Kuro 50" PRO1150HD with a $1200 in store savings off the regular $3499 price. This seems like a really low price compared with other sites and was wondering why? While they say it is 1080p/i and 720p compatible, is this a native 720p set? If so, is this still a good deal being a Kuro--are their big differences between the resolutions? Thanks

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Chris-

The model at Tweeter is the Elite version of the Pioneer PDP-5080. They both have a High-Definition Resolution of 1365 x 768 pixels, opposed to the 1080p models that are
1920 x 1080p.

The Elite models have an extensive menu system that is best accessed by an ISF certified technician. They can dial in your set perfectly with the expensive instruments they have. You can look at the ISF website for local people that perform this service.

No doubt, these plasma's are better than other similar pixel sets and better than many 1080p plasma HDTV's. I admit I'm partial to the 1080p sets, but I'm sure if you are sitting at the appropriate distance from the set you won't be able to discern much difference. It is just that with HD 1080p discs the lesser pixel sets have to do far more de-interlacing and scaling.

I would go to a store and see both models and also look at the Panasonics. While stores are a very imperfect environment for watching television (as they are very bright and the televisions are normally dialed into their VIVID mode, along with the fact that they control the programming material that usually best shows off the sets), at least it is a starting point to see if you can discern a difference at a normal viewing distance.

6th Avenue is selling the Panny TH-58PZ700U 1080p 58" plasma at less than $3,050 delivered. Not to be crude, but an extra 8" of watchable real estate is quite substantial:-) The Pioneer PDP5010FD 50" 1080p can be bought delivered for $3,150.

Anyway, you might be very happy with the Elite from Tweeter, although you will be paying taxes on it. It might be worth the extra money at Tweeter if they throw in setting up the plasma for you--either on a bracket or on a A/V console stand.

By the way, how do you plan on mounting your plasma? Do you already have a console or do you plan on getting a bracket system?

Good luck.

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