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DenonDefinitive 06-01-2008 06:27 PM

B&W 800D vs Defintive 7000SC
 
The 800Ds are about $23,000, while the 7000SCs are about $5,500.

Do the 800Ds sound about $17,500 BETTER than the 7000SCs?

It probably depends on the Amp/Preamp/Room Acoustics, right?

I mean if you have bad room acoustics, nothing will sound good even if they cost $100,000, right?

Captain Stereo 06-04-2008 04:21 PM

Re: B&W 800D vs Defintive 7000SC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenonDefinitive (Post 15302)
The 800Ds are about $23,000, while the 7000SCs are about $5,500.

Do the 800Ds sound about $17,500 BETTER than the 7000SCs?

It probably depends on the Amp/Preamp/Room Acoustics, right?

I mean if you have bad room acoustics, nothing will sound good even if they cost $100,000, right?

Are you actually expecting someone to tell you that even in a poor room you won't be able to tell a B&W 800D from a DefTech!?! Uh, no. If you can afford 800D's, you get 800D's, not friggin' DefTech's. Come on, are you really serious with this question???

DenonDefinitive 06-04-2008 06:43 PM

Re: B&W 800D vs Defintive 7000SC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Stereo (Post 15346)
Are you actually expecting someone to tell you that even in a poor room you won't be able to tell a B&W 800D from a DefTech!?! Uh, no. If you can afford 800D's, you get 800D's, not friggin' DefTech's. Come on, are you really serious with this question???

Well, Andrew Robinson & Daryl Wilkinson (Home Theater Magazine) both said in their separate independent reviews that the BP7000SCs sound like they cost FOUR times their price, which would put them around $22,000.

So I'm just wondering how they would compare the BP7000SCs with the 800Ds, which are around $23,000. Just out of curiosity.

Captain Stereo 06-04-2008 07:30 PM

Re: B&W 800D vs Defintive 7000SC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenonDefinitive (Post 15347)
Well, Andrew Robinson & Daryl Wilkinson (Home Theater Magazine) both said in their separate independent reviews that the BP7000SCs sound like they cost FOUR times their price, which would put them around $22,000.

So I'm just wondering how they would compare the BP7000SCs with the 800Ds, which are around $23,000. Just out of curiosity.

Reviewers insist on doing that, and it's baffling. They're using their own personal sense of value and declaring it as the "truth" for you and anyone else. That any Def Tech sounds like even the least expensive B&W 800 series speaker is truly laughable. No flaming intended here, I realized you're just asking the question. But don't let some dimwitted reviewer who clearly can't afford 800D's make decisions for you.

Cheers................Scott W.

kennyt 06-04-2008 07:30 PM

Re: B&W 800D vs Defintive 7000SC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenonDefinitive (Post 15347)
Well, Andrew Robinson & Daryl Wilkinson (Home Theater Magazine) both said in their separate independent reviews that the BP7000SCs sound like they cost FOUR times their price, which would put them around $22,000.

Well, I must agree with this, as I reviewed the Def Tech Mythos ST's (two pairs) and Ten center, and I feel the same way.

My benchmark was the Revel Salon2's, which I was full on ready to sell my Benz and buy until I spent some time with the Def Tech's. Don't get me wrong, the Revels do things better than the DT's, but when it came down to dropping the coin, I couldn't justify the price difference for the performance difference, and am still to this day very happy with the Def Tech's.

So, in effect I agree with both of you, Captain Stereo is right, DT's aren't B&W 800D's, but you are right in that the DT's are great speakers, especially for the money.

I always try to tell people to go listen to anything you are interested for yourself, and let YOUR ears decide. We reviewers all have our own ears and like what we like, while we try to best explain what we hear, it is what YOU hear that matters for your purchases, so let your ears be the judge!


BTW I still do not own the Revel Salon2's, and still have some of the Def Tech's in my main HT........

rlpiii 06-04-2008 08:07 PM

Re: B&W 800D vs Defintive 7000SC
 
I liked B&W over DefTech even before the diamond series was out. I had always thought something was up w/ HT mag giving DefTech such high marks in their reviews. I think even today you can still spot the HT mag marks in the DefTech ads.

As far Revel speakers, I never liked them much either. They had a pair at Marvins in Fort Worth that had rear firing mids that added nothing to the overall sound experience. It seemed like the only one who benefitted from it was the guy working on hook-ups behind the speaker. Not to mention they are very over-priced for their performance. The Revel sub was a better performer, but over-priced, and did not go very low.


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