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Old 01-23-2008   #7
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Kennyt:

I've auditioned the Mythos ST/Mythos Ten twice now with both movies and music. The Paradigms I've audition are the 100 v3's, not the v4s and the CC690 but there were no ADP590's , so I haven't had a full Paradigm home theater system to audition. And yes! I'd love to get my purchase right the first time. Having owned other speaker lines and having upgraded a few times, I've had my share of selling some audio/video gear at certain times.

I was thinking last night that whichever speaker line I go with, I don't think I could make a bad decision. They both produce great sound for a great price. They're not at the same dealer, so a side by side comparison is out. Knowing the markup/dealer cost for both brands of speakers, I feel that the discounts offered to me are very good.

I'm actually proud of myself that I've narrowed my decision down to two speakers systems. I would have liked to audition the Paradigm ADP590 surrounds and the Servo Sub 15 v2 just to see how good they are. Also, since you like direct radiators for the rear channels, would you have considered a pair of the 100 v4's for that? (like the way you're auditioning the Mythos ST's with an additional pair as the rear speakers). Also, was the Paradigm sub you reviewed really that good and would you consider adding a sub to your Mythos ST system? I've read many times how good the Paradigm subs are but I've enver had a chaance to audition.

Your reviews on both speaker systems have helped me out tremendously along with your additional assessments and guidance. I greatly appreciate your time and comments. For me, purchasing a home theater system is totally fun and is one area that I don't mind spending my money on (I guess it's my main vice, instead of cars, etc). Thanks Again!

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Old 01-24-2008   #8
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Also, since you like direct radiators for the rear channels, would you have considered a pair of the 100 v4's for that? (like the way you're auditioning the Mythos ST's with an additional pair as the rear speakers). Also, was the Paradigm sub you reviewed really that good and would you consider adding a sub to your Mythos ST system?
The Paradigm 100's would be pretty large for rear surrounds in my room, but yes, I would consider them and likely love them there!

As for the Servo 15v2, it's still in my reference rig, that sub ROCKS but Def Tech's subs are also excellent.

Having heard them both which do you prefer??
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Kennyt:

In going over my notes about what I've read and what I've heard with respect to the Paradigm and Def Tech Mythos speakers.

I usually focus on the center channel speaker first. I have to say that I felt the Paradigm CC690 was better (for me) than the Mythos Ten center speaker. I felt that it had "weight", vocal clarity, bass, dynamics, basically everything I want in a center speaker. With the Mythos Ten, I got most of those traits, but I felt there was a slight "thin-ness" to the sound if that makes any sense. This was just the comparison between these two center speakers.

This is probably a non issue with everyone, but I did like the height of the Mythos ST's over the Paradigm 100's. I liked the fact that the tweeter/midrange was higher because My 60" TV is on a stand that is fairly high. Also, if I get a 2nd pair of Mythos ST's for rears, it will also have the height advantage.

With respect to the surround speakers: when I auditioned the Mythos ST's, of course they did not have an extra demo pair to put as surrounds, but they had a Def Tech BVP something which I didn't really notice or pay attention to. I have no idea how good the ADP590's are because at the Paradigm dealer, there were no surrounds to be hooked up.

For Subs, I have never used a sub for music only listening, so I'm wondering if I need to have the greatest sub available for home theater, since both the Mythos ST's and the Paradigm 100's go pretty low in the bass. Of course, I'd love to have the Servo 15. What a creature that thing is. I just read in Home Theater Magazine about the Monitor Series v5 HT system. They gave it decent marks (Low 90's), but not great marks. They did mention the Ultracube 12 Sub and they measured the -3dB point at 18Hz. Not bad for a $1000 sub. My impression is that this is more a HT sub than a music sub, but that would fit for me.

I want a speaker system that will still be useful and just as good if I were to go with front projection. Right now, it's rear projection, 60" but I have had front projector in the past and want to make sure that whichever of these 2 speaker systems will translate best into that setting.

Also, if I want to go to a 7.1 setup, I'm going to need to figure that out. Apparently, I can only picture the Mythos ST setup with an additional pair for surrounds (Thank you Kenny) but then what would I use for rear centers? I probably have a ton of options for rear center speakers with Paradigm. I just wonder if going with an additional pair of the ADP590's is the way to go or direct radiator, maybe the 20's or maybe something used and not that expensive.

Lastly, I feel that I'm getting a good discount at both the Paradigm and Def Tech dealers. I have not challenged their discount offer or pushed them, but I just wonder if it's worth it. The economy is shaky and I'm sure they'd love to get my business but I don't want to go over the top and seem like I'm trying to lowball them and appear foolish.

I will audition the Mythos STs and Ten speakers again this Saturday and I am choosing that date to make up my mind. Their Ten is wall mounted, but their ST's are out in the room a little bit and it's in a front projector setup and all they had playing was of, of course, "The Fifth Element". I will bring music with me and just do my audio listening for a litle bit. I'm just wondering is there something I should do differently this one last time? whether it be the way I audition or what.

Kenny, I know this sounds silly, but do the boxes that the Mythos ST's come in, are they shaped like a cylinder like the speaker is? Are they packed pretty well in their boxes and also were the Paradigms packed pretty well too?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Kenny, I know this sounds silly, but do the boxes that the Mythos ST's come in, are they shaped like a cylinder like the speaker is? Are they packed pretty well in their boxes and also were the Paradigms packed pretty well too?
No, the boxes are rectangular, I've never seen round boxes but that would be pretty cool and yes, both come packed solidly.

Good luck Saturday, like I said, I would try to go to both dealers with the music and movies you like that day and see what works best for you. Both companies have multiple options for surrounds, so that shouldn't be a problem either way.
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Default Re: Definitive Technology Mythos ST

This is a little off topic but thought it was close enough

I have been thinking of building a surround system from the DEF TECH 7002 speakers and the Def tech center channel speaker and Def Tech bipolar surrounds.
I have a few questions.
Has anyone had or heard such a setup?
Do you think you loose any base by going with these speakers that have the Super Cube base speakers built in to the towers, as opposed to a set-up with a true subwoofer?

Is a good av receiver from pioneer or Yamaha($ 1,200.00 range) sufficient to drive these speakers?

Do you think the bipolar surrounds are sufficient or would you go with 4 main towers and a center channel.

I have only had a 5.1 system
what are the pluses of a 7.1 system? Is there a bigger soundfield or do you just get more surround effects?

Thanks in advance for any advise.
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Default Re: Definitive Technology Mythos ST

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and have questions regarding both of the brands you are talking about here.

Specifically KennyT, have you listened to Paradigm's signature line? The S8 or S6?

I'm about to take the plunge and I'm in the same boat as Jimmydaves. I'm willing to make the extra investment in the Signature S8s if their performance is greater by a measurable margin than either the Mythos STs or the Studio 100s. Everything I've read so far is that the S8s offer enough of a performance upgrade from the Studio 100s that the investment is valid. I have just been introduced to the Mythos STs and reading the very high reviews they are garnered with.

I just purchased a Yamaha RX-V3800 receiver (140 wpc X7 into 8 ohms at 0.04% thd) and am currently using Cerwin Vega AT12s as fronts. I want a true "audiophile" speaker that will serve home theater as well as music duties in equal good measure.

I have listened to all of them however I think both Paradigm lines were not set up optimally to show them off to their best strengths. The Mythos STs were set up much better and did in fact sound very good.

KennyT I'd really like to get your opinion on the Signature S8s if you have listened to them and where you think they stand in relation to the Mythos Sts.

Thank you to anyone who takes the time to read this post and more so to those who reply.
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