Onkyo dropping HD-DVD support

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Does this forum have an ignore list?

I can make you a buddy but can't ignore you.

Plus ignore doesn't really work that well because people quote the ignored person.

It would be better if people just start behaving better. I know I'm trying to set a better example.

[TheMoose]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Moose, please read the above and tell me that is not enticing people, calling them names, and asking for a fight. You replied to me:



The problem here is Moose it wasn't in this thread. Nobody was talking about BD in this thread. So a user is reading this thread and reads your rantings and tells you to take your own advice or post somewhere else. That was classy in comparison to you calling them fanatics, whiners, and gloating.

Twice in this thread I've called out Pro630HD for acting poorly as well. There is no need to tell you to get a girl.

OK it's obvious to me you are the one stirring things up here.
Instead of reading my post you drag back out my responses to people attacking me while not quoting the original attack so you can try to make me look bad while at the same time claiming to be trying to be a peacemaker.
Quit bringing up old stuff & just reply directly to my last post.
If you can't do that just don't reply to my posts at all.

Let's see just who actually has an agenda here.
1moreforHDDVD has 97 posts in this entire forum, everyone is in a format war type thread.
Pro-630HD has 177 posts & only 2 of them are not related to the format war.
Look it up if you don't believe me, it only took me a couple of minutes each to find all their posts.
I'm in like 3/4 of the different areas in this forum posting info & asking & answering questions.
Yet I seem to be spending a lot of time defending myself from attacks buy 1moreforHDDVD & Pro-630HD & the attacks are against me not the information I post.
Just who do you really think has an agenda & is causing trouble?

I'll say it again, attack the information if you can, stop attacking the messenger!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by TheMoose

OK it's obvious to me you are the one stirring things up here.
Instead of reading my post you drag back out my responses to people attacking me while not quoting the original attack so you can try to make me look bad while at the same time claiming to be trying to be a peacemaker.
Quit bringing up old stuff & just reply directly to my last post.

Ok lets look at this thread again since you think I'm picking on you (which I'm not). The first quote that could be seen as something that could entice an arguement was:

Originally Posted by TheMoose

the sooner it dies the better it will be for HDM.

Which was followed by

Originally Posted by Pro-630HD

In the words of Captain Jack Sparrow "You need to find yourself a girl mate!"

Which was immediately in the next post followed by

Originally Posted by Lotus

Let's be friendly here!

Moose doesn't need that kind of response.

followed by

Originally Posted by TheMoose

I just don't understand fanatics

Originally Posted by TheMoose

You guys need to move on instead of whining that the "wrong format" is winning & just enjoy the 1080p movies.

Originally Posted by Pro-630HD

I haven't been the one trying to find the most miniscule piece of anti hddvd fud and pushing it on others.

Which I followed up with an attack on using the word "FUD," about our posters.

Then

Originally Posted by gale

If you really feel that way why are you starting a thread in the HD DVD section you know will get that response? Your a Blu-Ray fan but yet posting stuff to get them to bite. Go back to BR.com or better yet go watch some of your own 1080p movies?

This was in response to your post about fanatics and whining. Yes taken in context her response to you was entirely classy compared to the post she was replying to.

Originally Posted by TheMoose

if this kind of news bothers you perhaps you should find a nice HD-DVD fan site & hide out there while this all gets sorted out.
Or maybe you could start contributing to this forum instead of just complaining.

That was your response. It kind of speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by TheMoose

When I'm told by someone to "go back to BR.com" a site I've never been to or attack me for posting truthful information just because they don't like that information I feel perfectly fine telling them to go back to whatever HD-DVD fan site they belong to.

The problem with your defense after another user called you out on it, is the poster wasn't referring to your "news," but your opinions combined with the news that were obviously meant to encite an arguement as quoted above. Her problem wasn't with the news but people being refered to as fanatics and told to quit whining when there was none even going on.

Originally Posted by Lotus

There is no reason to treat a new poster like this at all. They gave you very polite advice that you should take. Quit enticing people while this War is still going on. If you just posted news and left it at that then these people wouldn't be getting upset. The problem is you attack people and then when called out on it attack them right back. She didn't respond to your news, she responded to your rude opinion. Her response was classy in comparison.

Then I called you out on it and

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Back to my Captain Jack Sparrow comment Moose "You need to find yourself a girl mate!" Seriously!!! There is life beyond the keyboard frantically searching the internet for hours trying to find any piece of anti hddvd news you can find.

Which was immediately followed by

Originally Posted by Lotus

The same advice I'm giving Moose I'll give to you: Quit enticing people while the War is going on. This post of yours isn't nice in the least.

but

Originally Posted by TheMoose

this is just over the top even for you!
After your previous personal attacks on me & this completely biased response towards me in this thread

Right I showed bias against you by telling everyone who was rude to you to stop and pointing out how you incorrectly attacked a new user to this forum. Gal was pointing to your opinions meant to entice arguement not to your news.

Originally Posted by TheMoose

No that was not an attack, that was frustration for having to defend myself from attacks for posting a news story!
That is not a rude opinion either, go back in a bunch of these threads & see how many people are complaining about Blu-Ray & how the "better format" is losing.

As shown here the frustration was more with your opinion not the story although you were correctly called out for your misleading headline. Again this thread wasn't filled with any anti-BD sentiment you brought that baggage into this thread.

So because I support Blu-Ray gal decides that I'm therefore banned from ever posting anything in the HD-DVD section even if it applies directly to HD-DVD & then told to "Go back to BR.com" a site I've never been to!
In what bizarro world is this classy?

No she responded to you calling people fanatics and telling them to quit whining. Again none of that was going on in this thread. You're bringing baggage into this thread.

Originally Posted by TheMoose

OK it's obvious to me you are the one stirring things up here.
Instead of reading my post you drag back out my responses to people attacking me while not quoting the original attack so you can try to make me look bad while at the same time claiming to be trying to be a peacemaker.
Quit bringing up old stuff & just reply directly to my last post.

I've now cleared that up. All the poor behavior is in one post for people to see. I tried to talk this over with you in a PM but you've ignored the effort. There is no bias here by me.

[TheMoose]

You just don't get it do you?

The thing you said got it all started was a response to my first post,

Originally Posted by 1more4HDDVD

For someone who thinks HD DVD is dead, you sure spend a lot of time posting about it.

& my complete response not just a snippet you posted was,

Originally Posted by TheMoose

A forum is for posting information, that's what I'm doing & I'm providing links to back them up.
I'm not making this stuff up & it's not coming from a friend a guy I know used to work with.
It's not my problem if you don't like the news.

I don't think HD-DVD is dead, I think it's on life support & the sooner it dies the better it will be for HDM.

I know you think the war is good & should continue but I disagree.
Taking only the very last part of that quote was your attempt to stir the pot when you made it sound like I was attacking hd-dvd instead of stating my opinion on the war.

The fact was it is a news story & the last line is my opinion & I was attacked for that.

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

You forgot to put the question mark after the title like the article did since they do not know. The info I got back in Dec. was Onkyo was in the process of making a dual format player.

http://wesleytech.com/onkyo-suspends...d-support/542/

This applies only to the UK by the way. Robert Zahn was the noninsider with the info. So if you are producing a combo player as the above article strongly states does that mean you are dropping support for hddvd? I will let the Moose comb through the internet to find that out. In the words of Captain Jack Sparrow "You need to find yourself a girl mate!"

See everything was fine, it was a perfectly legitimate response to my post right up until that last sentence.
After that it just snowballed by people with an agenda which you conveniently ignored,

Originally Posted by TheMoose

Let's see just who actually has an agenda here.
1moreforHDDVD has 97 posts in this entire forum, everyone is in a format war type thread.
Pro-630HD has 177 posts & only 2 of them are not related to the format war.
Look it up if you don't believe me, it only took me a couple of minutes each to find all their posts.
I'm in like 3/4 of the different areas in this forum posting info & asking & answering questions.
Yet I seem to be spending a lot of time defending myself from attacks buy 1moreforHDDVD & Pro-630HD & the attacks are against me not the information I post.
Just who do you really think has an agenda & is causing trouble?

The people who are the most vocal with being upset with any bad news about hd-dvd are these guys that just happened to show up at the same time Dolbyblu was giving you a hard time & only post in these kinds of threads.
What is your response to that?

While you & me disagree at least you participate in other parts of this forum these guys are only here for one reason, to be hd-dvd cheerleaders.

Ok I guess you'll dig up all the same quotes again & completely ignore my questions but I'm used to that.

Yea I blame myself for taking their bait, but thats the way it goes sometimes.

[1more4HDDVD]

Originally Posted by TheMoose

Let's see just who actually has an agenda here.
1moreforHDDVD has 97 posts in this entire forum, everyone is in a format war type thread.

Yes, guilty. I’m here to talk about HD DVD, that’s why I post in the HD DVD forums. Isn’t that what a forum is for? Is that having an agenda?

You continually post negative HD DVD / positive Blu-ray news in the HD DVD section and you’re surprised that members are getting annoyed?

[TheMoose]

Originally Posted by 1more4HDDVD

Yes, guilty. I’m here to talk about HD DVD, that’s why I post in the HD DVD forums. Isn’t that what a forum is for? Is that having an agenda?

You continually post negative HD DVD / positive Blu-ray news in the HD DVD section and you’re surprised that members are getting annoyed?

If all you are interested in is hd-dvd then that's your deal but all I did was post a legitimate news item about hd-dvd in the hd-dvd section & you are getting annoyed that I posted some facts?
Should people only be allowed to post positive happy things about hd-dvd in this forum?
Show me where I posted positive Blu-ray information in the hd-dvd forum.

This is not an exclusive hd-dvd forum, it's damn good home theater forum with a hd-dvd section, look around there is more to home theater than just hd-dvd or Blu-ray.

Believe it or not some people come to forums like this to help them decide which format to choose, they may not be as well informed as some of us are & they come looking for the facts that will help them choose.
Should they not be allowed to see any news that makes it look like hd-dvd may not be the best choice at this time?

Perhaps you should spend less energy being annoyed at my posting a news story & start your own post about why people should still buy hd-dvd.