Could Warner Bros. Abandon HD DVD in 2008?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

Being "bought and paid for" isn't receiving product. It's when you discard your own view and adopt the view of a sponsor to foster financial/personal gain. Bill has stated clearly that the opinions he expressed as HIS OWN. He's always been a voice to promote what he feels is the best direction for the HT community. He did it with DVD/DIVX. He did it with anamorphic encoding. He's doing it now with BD/HD DVD.

All industry sites and high-profile spokespersons receive various gifts such as products, invitations, screener discs, exclusive interviews, sneak-peaks, etc. That's not being bought and paid for.

Paramount received 150 million to sign an exclusivity contract with Toshiba. *That* is being bought and paid for.

I've worked in this industry for a decade. I think I know what certain people "receive," for being a journalist. However receiving various gifts such as products is being bought. If I work for a big time Consumer Electronics company and I offer to have Jerry and his AVREV buddies flown to CES on a private jet and stay in a hotel suite on my company's tab is that "normal?"

No. Companies due that to gain influence.

If I was to give Jerry equipment so he could "review it," and told him to keep it, then it would be unethical of Jerry to do so. I bet Jerry has had these issues with companies already.

It's just not good business.

Bill Hunt and Harry Knowles have both been treated unlike other journalists. Both will say that it doesn't sway their opinion. Anyone who understand the human psyche will know that it does affect their opinion. It's why companies do it.

[JerryDelColliano]

NOTE: to all posters....

You can actually IGNORE people who are looking to start fights here.

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[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You need a psychiatrist. I don't work for a HD DVD company and never have. That can't be said about BD. You have no idea who you're talking to, but you're willing to post a lot of nonsense on here to try and disprove someone while you ignore 90% of the rest.

That's the same stuff that made me refuse to ever post on AVS. Please quit trying to start things because it makes you out as an immature brat.

It is obvious from your last two posts where you've resorted to calling me a jerk, brat and needing psychiatric help that you're not who you claim to be, but rather are just another unprofessional poster driven by an emotional attachment to HD DVD.

I don't post nonsense, I post facts. You have not been able to refute any of them with facts yourself, but show with your erroneous knowledge of the unit sales of Casino Royale that you knoweth not that of which you speak.

Numerous posters have already pointed out that you mention all these facts and links in your posts but have yet to even post any, then you claim you're not going to post links because they've been posted enough.

Bud, you haven't posted anything of substance, you're merely here to try and confuse people and you get angry and start personally attacking people who don't want to hold your hand and go on a long windy walk with you to a place where everything is rosy for HD DVD, terrible for Blu-ray and the points made by actual insiders are irrelevant when they are pro-Blu-ray or anti-HD DVD, like HD DVD's bandwidth being its #1 issue. You choose to ignore evidence from actual studio producers that quash the ideal of HD DVD being dramatically cheaper to produce and manufacture for.

http://www.emedialive.com/articles/r...rticleid=11425
What companies manufacture BD-ROM discs?
As of Aug. 2007, Sony DADC, Technicolor Home Entertainment Services, Sonopress, Cinram International, Panasonic Disc Manufacturing Corporation of America (PDMC), Deluxe Digital Studios, Infodisc Technology GmbH, Blue Ray Technologies, Bestdisc Technology Corp. and Nanomedia Corp. replicate prerecorded (pressed) BD-ROM discs. ODS Business Services Group GmbH, Quantum Optical Laboratories (QOL) and Laser-Video Multimedia plan to add BD production in the near future.


It doesn't say they have the potential to replicate, it says they replicate.

Underneath is lists the companies that have BD50 lines. They didn't put them in for show, they replicate discs on them.

Technicolor didn't do AVC encodes for Paramount and then let Sony get the replication order.
Ditto for Panasonic and their Disney/Fox encodes.

To suggest otherwise is either naive or is an agenda-driven opinion.

PS - saying that somebody posts as an agenda is not a personal attack. Try and discern the difference before you start another tirade of personal attacks against me.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

It is obvious from your last two posts where you've resorted to calling me a jerk, brat and needing psychiatric help that you're not who you claim to be, but rather are just another unprofessional poster driven by an emotional attachment to HD DVD.

Let's see here you've called me a liar and keep saying I'm a shill and paid to post here by HD DVD. You don't think that's the behavior of a jerk trying to start a fight?

You're not posting politely and suggesting I look into certain things. You're calling me a liar, a shill, etc. Then you get mad for me pointing out that you're behaving poorly? You're way too attached to this. You just responded again like someone in need of some Paxil.

I'm not going to play your little game with you. Go pick a fight with someone else.

[Robinson_A]

Okay, I have to step in. This discussion has gone beyond the original topic at hand. While people have presented good arguments for both sides I feel we've strayed into a territory I don't want to see on this forum. So, that being said, I'm calling this current argument closed.

If you wish to talk about your thoughts regarding what it would mean to the industry or the format if WB is or was to abandon HD DVD then post away. Otherwise please take a moment to let the dust settle and enjoy some of the other threads we have going elsewhere on the forum.

Thank you.

[Lotus]

Heard a rumor today that New Line will be going HD DVD exclusive in 2008. So if they're then it's a good bet that WB is leaning that way.