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Old 07-22-2007   #25
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Originally Posted by Tristan View Post
I have never heard of anything so idiotic--the major electronic companies can't work out a standard and so you think that there will be no further progress on hi-def, or even a regression, unless we all waste money and support this foolishness. I would give exactly the opposite advice--DO NO BUY EITHER! There is a huge demand for ever-increasing quality--if no one plays in the fomat war there will still be the demand and the companies will work out a standard. Till then, the current players should sit on the shelves.
I believe it's all about capitalism. They aren't willing to work out a standard among themselves because the ones that are the biggest contributers to a given technology stand to be the biggest winners financially if that technology wins. Neither side is going to give that up just to make the consumers happy.

No offense intended, but you're thinking like a consumer and not like a capitalist.
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Old 07-22-2007   #26
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Well it is another case of the CE industry being hurt because the major companies wouldn't come to a compromise. It is like the beta vs vhs debacle until the industry's that produce the videos make the decision to swing one way or the other it's my feeling we own them nothing. There are no combo players yet and they aren't hurrying to have stand alone recorders either. Now if the porn industry starts putting out disc on one format we will start to see a move for the general public. This is one of the major factors that helped put vhs in it's winning position. The 2nd thing is features that beta ignored but vhs incorporated. These will be the things that will make the difference for the 2 formats. Until then I will not slap down my $$. I also feel others should continue until the CE industry starts coming around. If both fail then maybe there will be a 3rd to replace it. I know that overseas there is a 3rd format that is less expensive but has the same quality of picture out on both of these formats. Also it is time to not give into the HDCP crap. We have a right to archive material that we purchase and not be ripped off by the big movie jerks that still don't understand that if you give a product at a reasonible price the consumer will go for it and not pirate it.
Hey!! Your comment about the porn industries influence sounds like the same one that I made on another thread. Don't be copying me. LOL.
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Old 07-23-2007   #27
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I don't think porn will be the determining factor in this war.In the early 80s you had to go to sleazy,nasty theaters and hope you didn't get splashed on.I remember as a college student parking far from the theater and walking with my head down hoping no one would recognize me.VHS changed everything.Now I could see whatever I wanted in the privacy and decent environment of my bedroom.
Porn however is not driving HD.It's home theater.It's family.I have a dedicated home theater;my children are young adults and I wouldn't think of watching my adult dvds anywhere except my bedroom.I believe that Disney,Star Wars,Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter,will be far more influencial than the porn industry.You can't just put a Jenna Jameson movie on in the living room to watch on a 50" plasma at 12:30 and hope your little girl doesn't wake up to ask you for a glass of water.
As more people buy HDTVs there will be an increased demand for programming. Let these late adopters foot the bill in this war.I'm still licking my wounds from all my previous early purchases.I gotta think about mortgages and tuition.
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Old 07-26-2007   #28
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I am/was an early adopter of Quad, Beta, DVD-A and SACD, DVI, etc... I've only been into the HT thing since 2004 and already I've seen S-video replaced by component. Component replaced by DVI. DVI replaced by HDMI 1.0 and then HDMI 1.3. I've seen surround encoding go from 5.1 to 6.1 and 7.1. There's talk of 10.1. Dolby and DTS have new formats about to be unleashed. There has been more upheaval in A/V in the last 4 years than in the previous 50 years! I'm done! Wake me when the dust settles and sanity is restored to the A/v industry. For now, I am on the side lines.

In 1976 I purchased a mid-fi stereo receiver which served me well for over 20 years. In 2004 I purchased an A/V receiver that was obsolete within a year! I've been through 4 DVD players since 2004 at prices averaging $1100.00. I'm not touching HD players until one format is standardized.
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Say what you will about being an early adopter or not, I've been enjoying some great Blu-Ray movies since November of 06!!

That being said the sooner the format war is over the better it will be.
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You are close, currently I have seven players between three systems, well, actually four in one, two in the bedroom and one for the wives spinerval training. I do not expect many, if even few to go as overboard as I have, but my enthusiasm has trickled down to those around me, case in point, several friends have now bought the new Samsung BDP-1200 after seeing my demo of SD vs Blu-ray discs. One bought my old BDP-1000, so I am even spreading the wealth so to speak!

That is great kennyt that you are helping your friends get involved with HD. 7 players, indeed a great place to be in. Being that I am in starting mode as far as systems go, maybe I can take one of those players off your hands.

Similarly, its just so crazy. Consumers looking for firmware updates, receivers will work directly connected to the tv, then when connected to the receiver, you lose either audio and video. This is the stuff that I feel we do not need. And would not, if we had one format only. And neither Sony or Toshiba will back down, until something serious happens.
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