HD Disc Format War Not Over By a Long Shot

[goldear]

Originally Posted by prerich

Give me a holla!!!! I'm a certified A+ Tech and I've been in HTPC for over 7 years!

Prerich, I may just do that since I'm more HT than PC qualified I've actually been thinking of this for a while, it's just that I'm very green when it comes to PCs and the most recent (and best) technologies available. I'm heading off for the night, but if you want to leave me some contact info (can I PM you through here?) feel free. Thanks

-Chris

[prerich]

Originally Posted by goldear

Prerich, I may just do that since I'm more HT than PC qualified I've actually been thinking of this for a while, it's just that I'm very green when it comes to PCs and the most recent (and best) technologies available. I'm heading off for the night, but if you want to leave me some contact info (can I PM you through here?) feel free. Thanks

-Chris

Yes, you may!

[TheMoose]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Rules!

Ken,

Not to pile on, but from ComputerWorld, another of those sites "infested" with Geeks who generally determine what becomes successful in the marketplace:

From ComputerWorld – 2/20/08

The Poll of the Week: Will the demise of HD DVD push you to buy a Blu-ray hi-def player?

13.2% - I win! I bought Blu-ray already.

10.3% - Too late, I bought HD DVD and I'm stuck.

8.8% - No, I'm waiting for hi-def downloads.

57.4% - No, I don't need a hi-def DVD player.

10.3% - What's HD DVD?

This poll is consistent with the Slashdot.com poll: Almost 2/3 of the respondents don't care about hi-rez DVD's or they are going to wait for the HD downloads.

Blue Ray will always be remembered for winning the battle but losing the war.

End of discussion and end of this thread.

I'm sorry but in what kind of "geek infested" site does 67.7% of the poll respondents either not need HD or not even know what it is??
That sounds to me like a bunch of die hard hd-dvd fanboys tilting a poll.
That sounds more like the response you get from polling a nursing home not a geek site!!

The only way it's the end of the discussion is to those hardcore hd-dvd guys that are bitter they lost the war.

[TheMoose]

Originally Posted by goldear

Kenny...BTW, the Panny BD30 that I said I was looking at for "new" between $360-$380 just a couple weeks ago ($449 just as recently as yesterday at Amazon), is now at $698 tonite (5 used/new for $549). In fact, I thought I recalled the retail on this only being listed as $599. In a matter of a few weeks they've added over $300 to this player--and these are suppposedly the low price finds. They better wise up.

You understand that sale prices don't last forever don't you?
You should also understand Panasonic isn't the only company that builds Blu-Ray players.
A quick scan of Amazon showed 3 1080p players for $378-$348 & several more under $300 used/new.

Rumor has it Wal-Mart will soon have sub $300 Blu-Ray players from China & Oppo a maker of high quality low priced upconverting DVD players is also building a Blu-Ray player.

Like Kenny said buying your first hd-dvd player now just isn't a good thing to do.
I can see someone with a large collection of hd-dvd's to buy a cheap player for back up & maybe some movies when they drop down to single digit prices but getting in to hd-dvd now just isn't a fiscally sound decision.

[Vinyl Rules!]

Originally Posted by TheMoose

I'm sorry but in what kind of "geek infested" site does 67.7% of the poll respondents either not need HD or not even know what it is??
That sounds to me like a bunch of die hard hd-dvd fanboys tilting a poll.
That sounds more like the response you get from polling a nursing home not a geek site!!

The only way it's the end of the discussion is to those hardcore hd-dvd guys that are bitter they lost the war.

Moose,

You are showing yourself to be an illiterate troll.

67.7% DID NOT say they did not know what HD was.

I suspect the burr under your butt is that the majority of them simply didn't care about hi-red DVD.

And, if you will carefully re-read the numbers in the table, you will see the following:

10.3% - What's HD DVD?

Even a middle-schooler would be able to calculate this means that 89.7% had some awareness of HD-DVD

And if you will again re-read the numbers, you will see that more of the geeks owned Blue Ray than HD-DVD.

If you want to come after me, fine.

But get your facts correct.

And personally, I don't own either format. I am a certified geek and I chose to sit this one out. I have a 42" 720p plasma display and my $170 Oppo looks just as good as the Blue Rays and HD-DVD's I've seen on friends 42" displays. So tell me, why would I pay more for a very slight increase in the video quality that can only be seen on a larger screen? We geeks tend to be practical, not foolish.

Nor do we generally engage in oneupmanship, except with those inhabiting lower gene pools.

And when I want a DVD, I don't have to pay $30+ for it or wait for someone to offer a BOGO on hi-rez DVDs. Oh, and do you really think there are going to be any more BOGO's on Blue Rays now that Toshiba folded?

If you're going to troll, please limit your trolling to the two-digit IQ pool.

[TheMoose]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Rules!

Moose,

You are showing yourself to be an illiterate troll.

67.7% DID NOT say they did not know what HD was.

I suspect the burr under your butt is that the majority of them simply didn't care about hi-red DVD.

And, if you will carefully re-read the numbers in the table, you will see the following:

10.3% - What's HD DVD?

Even a middle-schooler would be able to calculate this means that 89.7% had some awareness of HD-DVD

And if you will again re-read the numbers, you will see that more of the geeks owned Blue Ray than HD-DVD.

If you want to come after me, fine.

But get your facts correct.

And personally, I don't own either format. I am a certified geek and I chose to sit this one out. I have a 42" 720p plasma display and my $170 Oppo looks just as good as the Blue Rays and HD-DVD's I've seen on friends 42" displays. So tell me, why would I pay more for a very slight increase in the video quality that can only be seen on a larger screen? We geeks tend to be practical, not foolish.

Nor do we generally engage in oneupmanship, except with those inhabiting lower gene pools.

And when I want a DVD, I don't have to pay $30+ for it or wait for someone to offer a BOGO on hi-rez DVDs. Oh, and do you really think there are going to be any more BOGO's on Blue Rays now that Toshiba folded?

If you're going to troll, please limit your trolling to the two-digit IQ pool.

OK, why don't you read this carefully.
I wrote,
I'm sorry but in what kind of "geek infested" site does 67.7% of the poll respondents either not need HD or not even know what it is??

57.4% said No, I don't need a hi-def DVD player & 10.3% said What's HD DVD?
57.4% + 10.3% = 67.7%
That means 67.7% of the people polled said either they do not need HD or not even know what it is & that is precisely what I said.
That site may be full of computer geeks but they are not Home Theater geeks with those kind of responses!

Would you like to point out to me exactly how those figures make me an "illiterate troll" or would you care to apologize now?

I have a 70" 1080p TV & I can tell the difference between Blu-Ray & upconverted DVD's & my Upconverting player is a Sony DVP-NS3100ES.
If you don't need or want hd-dvd or Blu-Ray why are you so passionately flaming me because I enjoy my Blu-Ray movies?

The next time you go spouting off you better have your facts straight.

Originally Posted by Vinyl Rules!

If you're going to troll, please limit your trolling to the two-digit IQ pool.

While I'm not a troll I will try to type s-l-o-w-l-y so you can understand me better next time.

Oh & I don't need to "come after you" you just showed everyone here exactly what you are.
I have given a very civilized response to your flame bait post this time, next time I will not be so nice & I will report your name calling.
This is not some punk site & things like that are not tolerated here!