Audio Video Revolution Forum  

Go Back   Audio Video Revolution Forum > Everything HDTV, High-end Video, HD DVD, Blu-ray and beyond > Blu-ray Software

Blu-ray Software Keep up with the latest Blu-ray movie releases.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-13-2008   #7
Super Moderator
 
kloneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 161
Default Re: DTS-HD MA & 1.5 Mbps DTS

I believe that once the content is digital, it should remain so as far down the reproduction chain as possible, therefore the best place "Killer DACs/audio processing" is the in the preamp/controller/processor rather than the player. This method also allows for all digital sources to benefit from the qualitiy of DACs, and the short path for the distortion/noise introducing analog stages.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oscar_in_fw View Post
I'd want my next player to have killer DACs/audio processing processing with six channel balanced outputs. Unfortunately, that player is probably years away (if it ever appears) and will probably cost as much as the Halcro SSP....
__________________
- Kloneman --
kloneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Fort Worth
Posts: 16
Default Re: DTS-HD MA & 1.5 Mbps DTS

Quote:
Originally Posted by kloneman View Post
I believe that once the content is digital, it should remain so as far down the reproduction chain as possible, therefore the best place "Killer DACs/audio processing" is the in the preamp/controller/processor rather than the player. This method also allows for all digital sources to benefit from the qualitiy of DACs, and the short path for the distortion/noise introducing analog stages.
Practicalities enter the situation here. You'd have to "klone" my paycheck quite a few times before I could afford a digital preamp with the features I want (balanced outputs). And I suspect most digital preamps come with digital volume controls which neuter the sound in comparison with analog preamps.
oscar_in_fw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008   #9
Super Moderator
 
kloneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 161
Default Re: DTS-HD MA & 1.5 Mbps DTS

Digital attenuation definitely had problems in early implementations, but is probably not much of one in appropriately designed current generation equipment. If i recall correctly, the problems were related to anomalies in the extreme ends of the control ranges. Analog attenuation has its own problems, including the eventually "scratchy" control, and linearity imbalance across the control range. Digital attenuation is used in most of the "room acoustic compensation" circuitry used in many A/V components, including preamp/processors and recent-vintage powered subwoofers, so its already in the signal chain.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oscar_in_fw View Post
Practicalities enter the situation here. You'd have to "klone" my paycheck quite a few times before I could afford a digital preamp with the features I want (balanced outputs). And I suspect most digital preamps come with digital volume controls which neuter the sound in comparison with analog preamps.
__________________
- Kloneman --

Last edited by kloneman; 03-13-2008 at 08:16 PM..
kloneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2008   #10
Super Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: White Plains, New York
Posts: 1,706
Default Re: DTS-HD MA & 1.5 Mbps DTS

Quote:
Originally Posted by rlpiii View Post
Sort of. See post #21
http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=1310

Yes, he gave them to me. We had a conversation about 1.5 Mbps DTS, and he said he had a few extra discs he could give me. . . I liked the video better on the blu-ray version after seeing both HD DVD and blu-ray even though these discs were really about showcasing audio. The audio sounded the same on both.
Interesting that there was no difference in the audio at all.
deacongreg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2008   #11
Super Member
 
rlpiii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: TX
Posts: 506
Default Re: DTS-HD MA & 1.5 Mbps DTS

Quote:
Originally Posted by deacongreg View Post
Interesting that there was no difference in the audio at all.
No difference between HD DVD audio and Blu-ray audio. I did notice that the blue-ray disc took longer to load, but I think that is a function of the LG BH200 player. Since I don't yet have the capability to decode and hear DTS-HD MA, I was only listening to the 1.5 Mbps DTS soundtracks.

As suggested by oscar_in_fw, I ordered the Denon DVD-3800BDCI today. I should have it by next weekend. Then I'll be able to listen to DTS-HD MA tracks.
rlpiii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2008   #12
Super Moderator
 
kloneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 161
Default Re: DTS-HD MA & 1.5 Mbps DTS

What are the titles/formats of the disks the Halcro rep sent? I don't think anyone can tell you if they've heard them without knowing this, grin.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rlpiii View Post
I got a few blu-ray and hd dvd discs in the mail from my Halcro rep. today.
He had told me that 1.5 Mbps DTS sounds really good if you do not have DTS-HD MA processing available.
Since my LG BH200 does not yet fully support DTS-HD MA, I am going to try out the 1.5 Mbps DTS tracks.
Has anyone played with these discs yet? If so, what did you think?
__________________
- Kloneman --
kloneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply

Tags
15, audio, blu, demo, dolby, dts, dtshd, hd, high, ma, mbps, ray, resolution, sound, true

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PS3 getting DTS-HD-MA Confirmed TheMoose Blu-ray Players 23 04-15-2008 08:08 AM
DTS or Dolby Digital? SteveS. Surround Sound 13 04-14-2008 05:05 AM
DTS-HD Master Audio Cypher Receivers 5 03-25-2008 01:00 PM
Genesis in DTS bruser The Best in New Music 11 08-25-2007 11:56 PM
Integra Delivers Its First HDMI 1.3 Compatible AV Receiver With Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD AVRevForum.com Discuss AVRev.com News 5 07-20-2007 06:40 AM




SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1