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Old 11-28-2007   #25
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How can that be? It sucks majorly at deinterlacing 1080i Blu-ray content and even worse at upconverting standard DVDs. Also, it can't internally decode the new TrueHD and DTS Master HD audio formats. It can only send them out bitstream to a receiver capable of decoding them. While not a problem on my end, most people do not have a receiver capable of this. Then you are SOL and stuck with a core DD or DTS track.

The Samsung BD-P1400 excels everywhere the Panasonic fails.
Read this (linky) about the upscaling.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post12339812

Keep reading the thread, you will find many owners have no issue as i w/ this players upscaling performance. Really excels?! Look at how many people are dropping the Sammy for the BD30 due it not working properly. Also if you can remember DVD went down this same road when they dropped internal decoding and went to bitstream. This is nothing new in the world of progress, yeah it sucks but it is what it is. Ok the BD30 is the best stand alone if you don't need internal decoding, other than that to me it lacks nothing!
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There is nothing in the thread to disprove the fact that the 1080i deinterlacing on the Panny 30 is horrible. This may cause some problems with the third Pirates film as it is only 1080i on the BR.

There was 1 or 2 mentions of it doing surprising well at upconverting SD DVD. However, the player fails every deinterlacing test with the BR and DVD Silicon Optix Test discs.

I like the Samsung 1400. It works perfectly in my system and loads disc fast. Faster than the Panny 30 IMO.
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Read this (linky) about the upscaling.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post12339812

Keep reading the thread, you will find many owners have no issue as i w/ this players upscaling performance. Really excels?! Look at how many people are dropping the Sammy for the BD30 due it not working properly. Also if you can remember DVD went down this same road when they dropped internal decoding and went to bitstream. This is nothing new in the world of progress, yeah it sucks but it is what it is. Ok the BD30 is the best stand alone if you don't need internal decoding, other than that to me it lacks nothing!
AVS is filled with a lot of people who just lie about their gear. They feel a need to justify their purchase on the internet. It is also a major site filled with complainers. Anyone who has ever had a lemon posts there and they post often. The Samsung 1400 is a really strong unit and while there may be defects out there (on both sides) the amount of posts on AVS with people saying they traded it in, etc. are well more than likely bogus. AVS was once a great place where you could talk technical about units and it was filled with ISF types, and now it's just a cesspool of misinformation for the most part.

Anyone who has run tests on the Panny can tell you it fails many deinterlacing tests. I don't like bad mouthing products because some people may own them and it can become a nightmare online to read responses. I've been egged on by some here to point out which players are "poor," at upconversion and this is a prime example.

How bad is bad? Well for someone like me, I'll notice the problem and it makes it so I can't watch. I can't watch a DLP TV or Projector that isn't a 3 chip or LED. I see rainbow effect and always stare at it until I get a headache. I know I'm not like most people so I try not to point out the defects. The real thing is do you like your Panny?

If yes then great. There are however players out there that do upconversion better. Don't however let this make you enjoy your player any less. If it's good for you that is all that matters. I'm also sure others would agree with you.

That is why those shopping should compare for themselves and go with what makes them happy. I mean I know a guy who likes Bose over Martin Logan. If there was only one definate answer then stores wouldn't carry multiple brands.
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Lotus,

I have looked just about everywhere for one, so where can one obtain a BD-UP5000?

Ken S
I've got a loaner from Samsung, but I ordered one for myself and I'm hoping the FEDEX guy delivers it this week or early next. I believe stores will be getting them at around the same time.

You can already find places taking preorders online and at stores for around $770 to $800.
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The best Blu-Ray player, will be the one that can finally play a movie, without needing a firmware update!! Whew, that would be nice.
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The best Blu-Ray player, will be the one that can finally play a movie, without needing a firmware update!! Whew, that would be nice.
Then the combo drive that is just now shipping is the answer. It has firmware updates already in place that allow it to play every title currently on the market.
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