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Old 06-25-2009   #25
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A good reason to get a pre/pro or AVR with HDMI would be to have the ability hear multi-channel digital audio.
I think the multi-channel digital audio does sound better than than multi-channel analog audio.

You should hear/see a BR purchase worthy difference even without HDMI connections using your current A/V set-up.
Most audiophiles say that multichannel analog audio sounds better and I agree.
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ok, The better video procs are 14bit, Oppo 12 bit. The better SACDs and CDs have XLR connections, the Oppo doesn't. The S1 has a glass lens, does the Oppo? Oh, I don't know why but a friend with a '83 Beta showed jaggies with the first Animusic DVD. So, as a universal player to replace my Krell's (I question that the audio from a CD on the oppo 83 is equal to a 250/2 Krell) and the S1 (refurb price $300), the Beta Oppo BD-83 doesn't make the cut. This is also seeing / hearing other players that also haven't shipped (vaporware), but seem almost revolutionary that they are great in what they do. At the price of the Oppo it seems like a above budget price (budget $50 to $250), but doesn't meet spec or have the rep of Leviinson, Denon, Krell, or top of the line Sony. and thus does not compete at the higher level. If it was out of Beta, played tracks with repeats, no jaggies, etc (see comments of early access sompleplace else). Does anyone believe that the audio is equal to a Krell Evol CD player?
Come on now... don't burst my bubble. A Krell, I would sure hope a CD player selling for $8,000 would sound just a little bit better.

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Come on now... don't burst my bubble. A Krell, I would sure hope a CD player selling for $8,000 would be superior.
Probably won't play Blu-rays though.
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Most audiophiles say that multichannel analog audio sounds better and I agree.
Well, I don't. I think that mulit-channel digital is better.
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Well, I don't. I think that mulit-channel digital is better.
In that case, I'd like to hear your opinion on playing DVD Audio via multichannel digital audio vs. analog.
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Is $300 equal to $8000? No, no, no, no.. The Oppo is a Universal player. Again, again, even against the $300 refurb price of the S1, I would not be compelled to upgrade. The Oppo Beta version had jaggies.. A video artifact. on the Oppo is bad. With respect to CD's the Krell 250/2 in my opinion is a better CD player that is years older and could be bought on Ebay for $1500. Then again, I would see no reason to buy the Oppo. In my opinion, yes these are extreme comparisons, but people with decent CD only players, SHOULD then IMO not intend to try to buy a Universal player, but a player that plays the SINGLE format that they want.
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