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Old 06-25-2009   #19
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If your question is will a Blu-ray player give you better video quality than a SD DVD player, the answer is a resounding yes, even on a 720p HDTV. As far as sound goes, the optical is the best connection to your AV amp.
Just curious - why do yo say optical is the best connection?

In my tests, coax always sounds better than optical
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Just curious - why do yo say optical is the best connection?

In my tests, coax always sounds better than optical
Many devices these day have only optical, so generally that would be the safe suggestion. Optical or coax are functionally equivalent so it really does not matter. As to why you feel one is better than another I can not answer. I've read that same sentiment many times and have no answer since the data is the same on both.
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Many devices these day have only optical, so generally that would be the safe suggestion. Optical or coax are functionally equivalent so it really does not matter. As to why you feel one is better than another I can not answer. I've read that same sentiment many times and have no answer since the data is the same on both.
Exactly, they are the same. Now if your receiver has different of better DAC's or other circuits that the sound goes through that could be a difference but I seriously doubt that is the case.
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A good reason to get a pre/pro or AVR with HDMI would be to have the ability hear multi-channel digital audio.
I think the multi-channel digital audio does sound better than than multi-channel analog audio.

You should hear/see a BR purchase worthy difference even without HDMI connections using your current A/V set-up.
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ok, The better video procs are 14bit, Oppo 12 bit. The better SACDs and CDs have XLR connections, the Oppo doesn't. The S1 has a glass lens, does the Oppo? Oh, I don't know why but a friend with a '83 Beta showed jaggies with the first Animusic DVD. So, as a universal player to replace my Krell's (I question that the audio from a CD on the oppo 83 is equal to a 250/2 Krell) and the S1 (refurb price $300), the Beta Oppo BD-83 doesn't make the cut. This is also seeing / hearing other players that also haven't shipped (vaporware), but seem almost revolutionary that they are great in what they do. At the price of the Oppo it seems like a above budget price (budget $50 to $250), but doesn't meet spec or have the rep of Leviinson, Denon, Krell, or top of the line Sony. and thus does not compete at the higher level. If it was out of Beta, played tracks with repeats, no jaggies, etc (see comments of early access sompleplace else). Does anyone believe that the audio is equal to a Krell Evol CD player?
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ok, The better video procs are 14bit, Oppo 12 bit. The better SACDs and CDs have XLR connections, the Oppo doesn't. The S1 has a glass lens, does the Oppo? Oh, I don't know why but a friend with a '83 Beta showed jaggies with the first Animusic DVD. So, as a universal player to replace my Krell's (I question that the audio from a CD on the oppo 83 is equal to a 250/2 Krell) and the S1 (refurb price $300), the Beta Oppo BD-83 doesn't make the cut. This is also seeing / hearing other players that also haven't shipped (vaporware), but seem almost revolutionary that they are great in what they do. At the price of the Oppo it seems like a above budget price (budget $50 to $250), but doesn't meet spec or have the rep of Leviinson, Denon, Krell, or top of the line Sony. and thus does not compete at the higher level. If it was out of Beta, played tracks with repeats, no jaggies, etc (see comments of early access sompleplace else). Does anyone believe that the audio is equal to a Krell Evol CD player?
How absurd to even attempt to make those comparisons and assumptions.
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