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kiratobias 01-28-2009 12:48 PM

Which players have internal decoding?
 
Which players have internal decoding for all of the formats, including DTS-MA. My B&K Ref 50 S1 does not decode the high def formats so I need a player that does it internally. I know the Panasonic 55 does but what else is out there?

JAM 01-29-2009 06:05 PM

Re: Which players have internal decoding?
 
Hi kiratobias,

There are many now. The Panny 55 you mention has been very well rated in various reviews.
There's the Samsung BD-P2550 with HQV video processing (Reon VX chip). Note that DTS-HD MA was added through the firmware update v2.4; the units on store shelves may not come with support for it.
The Sony BDP-S550 also decodes these new codecs.
The high-end High-priced Denon DVD-3800BDCI ($2K).
The upcoming Oppo Digital BDP-83, which a lot of people are waiting for, myself included. ;-)

For an exhaustive list, you can check out the following website.
http://www.idoblu.co.uk/

But be careful, there are some glaring errors on this list. When you see a blue box indicating internal decoding and it shows only 2.0 for analog outputs, it's a sure sign that there's no actual internal decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA. Some errors for instance are the Sony BDP-S350, the Samsung BD-P1500 and the Panasonic DMP-BD35 (indicates 7.1 analog outs but it's an error as it only has 2.0).

Good luck! :-)

ChiefTK 01-29-2009 06:06 PM

Re: Which players have internal decoding?
 
With that B&K prepro, I believe you need a player that not only internally decodes (which many of the current blu-ray players do), but you also need the player to output the audio via analog outs. This limits the choices.

The Panasonic DMP BD 55K does it, but in spite of the fact Panasonic lists the retail price at $399.99, due to reviews and current availability, vendors are price gouging this unit for $699 and higher. The Panasonic is a great BD player, but considering those prices, I would wait for the new DMP BD 80 that should be available in a couple months.

Another choice is the Pioneer BD 05FD, but it doesn't yet fully decode DTS-MA. A firmware upgrade is supposed to be available sometime in February to correct this deficiency.

Another Pioneer, the BD 09FD, is advertised as a reference player, has excellent chassis build quality and will do what you need, but it is priced at $2K+.

There are other players (Sony, Samsung, Denon and LG) that have analog outputs, but I'm not certain they will internally decode all the codecs and output them via analog out.

wes 01-30-2009 11:13 AM

Re: Which players have internal decoding?
 
Did you see the new Marantz BD player not even 2.0 compatible what a farce.

I am waiting for the Oppo BDP 83

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/

JAM 01-31-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Which players have internal decoding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wes (Post 19603)
Did you see the new Marantz BD player not even 2.0 compatible what a farce.

I am waiting for the Oppo BDP 83

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/


Kind of like the $2K Denon DVD-3800BDCI that came out not that long ago and is also only profile 1.1. Then again Denon and Marantz are both from the same parent company (D&M Holdings Inc.), so they must reuse much of the design between both brands.

The Denon DVD-3910 DVD player, which was a universal player when it came out about 4 years ago, supported CD, DVD-Audio/Video, HDCD, SACD, MP3 and Windows Media; it sold for $1500. In the new Realta based DVD-3800BDCI, Denon has dropped support for HDCD, DVD-Audio and SACD. If you want those formats, you have to up the ante to $4200 for the upcoming DVD-A1UDCI, which will be their new universal player with profile 2.0.

I'm with you on the Oppo BDP-83. A reasonably priced ($500-$600) universal player decoding HDCD, DVD-Audio/Video, SACD, Dolby True-HD, DTS-HD MA, with a USB port, profile 2.0 and one of the top video processing technologies (VRS by ABT). If Oppo pulls it off as well as they have done in the past players, I think it's going to be another homerun out of the ball park for Oppo, heck out of the solar system!

wes 01-31-2009 07:48 PM

Re: Which players have internal decoding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JAM (Post 19609)
I'm with you on the Oppo BDP-83. A reasonably priced ($500-$600) universal player decoding HDCD, DVD-Audio/Video, SACD, Dolby True-HD, DTS-HD MA, with a USB port, profile 2.0 and one of the top video processing technologies (VRS by ABT). If Oppo pulls it off as well as they have done in the past players, I think it's going to be another homerun out of the ball park for Oppo, heck out of the solar system!

March is the date Oppo is planning on :) Spring will be good


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