Originally Posted by Stokestack
"You're wrong about the Denon though. If you choose the surround mode called "5-Channel Stereo" It turns the rears into a perfect left/right pair."
Where did I say that the Denons couldn't do that? I said it about the Yamaha:
"The Yamaha is marked by baffling omissions. For example, there is no way to simply get four-speaker stereo out of the thing."
Sorry about that. Some Yamaha's have a mode called "Party Mode" which does a reasonable job of simulating 5-chanenll stereo if you turn the reverb all the way down.