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Old 08-31-2008   #136
Captain Stereo
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Default Re: High end pre/pro's. Are they worth it???

Originally Posted by fitzcaraldo215 View Post
Again, was the Audyssey in the Integra properly calibrated and on when you did your comparisons? With analog sources, like VHS tapes, this is, of couse, not possible on the Integra, since it cannot EQ the analog inputs. It would seem that perhaps you also did the 5.1 comparisons the same way - via analog in. This is going to play exactly from the strengths of the Classe to the greatest weaknesses of the Integra. I do not think there is anyone who would debate the weakness of the Integra via analog, or the strength of the Classe in this regard. See my previous postings in this forum. So, if analog sources is your thing, then you have made a wise choice. By all means, enjoy it.

Analog is not my thing any more. Contrary to your suggestion, this is not based on having the latest and greatest buzzwords as logos on my pre/pro. It is based on extensive listening to SACD's and DVD-A's via HDMI through my Integra. 80% of the use of my system is in this mode with classical music. Again, see my previous postings in this forum. So, for me, the opposite choice from yours is optimal. Like all things in life, it all depends...

I am a high ender, have been for 50 years, most of that in the analog-dominated era. I am not going to name drop my system, nor am I saying it is any better than yours. But, it was a quite revealing system before I upgraded from 2-channel to multichannel. All I can say after hearing multichanel SACD's of live Philadelphia Orchestra concerts I actually attended is that I am overwhelmed with the greater sense of musical realism and emotional involvement in the performance than I ever have been with any analog source material.

So, I am happy and you are happy. Ain't life great?
Indeed it is. And let me also be clear about my comparison. It was the Integra DTC 9.8 decoding TrueHD and DTS-HD MA from blu-ray versus an SSP-600 decoding standard DD & DTS from the same blu-ray discs. Let me repeat from an earlier post. It WASN'T. EVEN. CLOSE. The Classe was dramatically better in every way. New formats from a mass market product, even a great one like the Integra, cannot compete with something built to the standard of the Classe products. In the same way that a Linn CD12 playing back red book CD will blow away in every way an Oppo SACD player playing back SACD. These are not subjective opinions. These are empirical facts. I am glad you enjoy your current rig and if you are happy with it, that is great. This hobby of ours has far too many people chasing gear instead of enjoying music and movies.
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