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Old 08-08-2008   #49
fitzcaraldo215
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Default Re: High end pre/pro's. Are they worth it???

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Originally Posted by mribob View Post
thanks for both of the above replies....I'm taking home that I should run a quality hdmi 1.3 cable from my BD source into my new hd audio compliant processor; then run one hdmi 1.3 cable into the back of my 1080p rear projection tv for best audio and video. I'll be utilizing the best of the BD player; and processor; and TV for all worlds; and run it on 24 frames at 120 hz on the tv monitor....

I will wait until after cedia and find a new bd player that is configured for the new 2.0 version....and hopefully find a new high end pre-pro that can handle this format; hopefully something less expensive than the Krell evo 707. It sounds that I should consider the Halcro 220 as best bet at this time...I really appreciate the help and feedback.
I wouldn't even bother with a Halcro. I personally think there is nothing better on the market in pre/pros than the Denon or the Integra/Onkyo. It sounds like you have been steeped in the legends of high end audio, as had I been for 50 years. I used to look down on home theater sonically, and for a long time, this was justified. But, in the last few years or so, there has been a major shift. It's hard to see it now, but we will look back on it as a major paradigm shift in audio.

I had a very, very nice $50K high end 2-channel system - Martin Logan, Krell, Levinson, Theta, Audio Research, etc. I converted to multichannel late last year, thinking I would keep the 2-channel gear integrated with the multichannel. Believe it or not, I discovered that an Integra DTC 9.8 plus an Oppo 980 connected via HDMI - total cost under $2K - sounded far, far better with multichannel Sacd's than any 2-channel system I had ever heard, vinyl included. And, I had heard some big name stuff even much more expensive than my own.

The old, big names of the old analog-centric high end just can't cut it anymore. They are hopelessly behind in technology because they are not geared up to do the heavy duty digital enginering required for digital signal processing and related items required by home theater. Underlying this is the rapid advance of DSP and related chips themselves, which are continuing to grow in power and capability very rapidly. Onkyo/Integra and Denon are the only companies who have excelled at meeting this current challenge. Everybody else is pretty much an also-ran, even other Japanese mass-market competitors, who may never catch up. I do not think traditional high end, low volume companies can really hope to keep pace, because this new stuff requires a big investment which must be spread across a lot of units sold. That's not the economic model of the high end. That and the lack of skills due to their analog-centric mindset may be a killer for many of them. Designing and polishing a Redbook CD player was child's play compared to this.
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